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Tales from the timber: Mantles

December 16, 2008 at 05:56 AM

I hunt with my sons on our land in Schuyler County. On Nov. 21, 2008, the first Friday of gun season, Bill who is my oldest son came in from hunting in the morning and told us he saw an albino deer. We were all amazed because there are so few white (albino) deer.

Friday evening Jason and I both shot bucks. I shot an eight-pointer and Jason (my youngest) shot a 9-pointer (pictured above). We did not see the albino deer.

The next morning Bill came in from hunting, and said he saw the white deer again and also another small buck that had white front legs and a white spot on the front of its head.

We all just suspected he was pulling our leg.

Rod decided to go check his trail cam he had set up on a tree. Sure enough, lo and behold the white deer!

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people complain about not seeing any big bucks well look at what they are shooting immature deer. Shoot a doe if u want meet cause they will just end up sawing off the racks.  I can’t tell u how many of these type of deer I see riding in the back of trucks with the tailgate down like they have some monster deer! WAKE UP

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/16 at 10:23 AM

The vocal minority also needs to wake up to the fact that big antlers do not a trophy make for all hunters.  When did we lose our right to chose which deer we want to harvest.  Deer hunting is different things to different people.  My trophy may not measure up to your standards, but that’s okay.  It only has to meet mine.  I wonder what would happen to all the trophy hunters, if deer suddenly quit growing antlers?  Would they quit hunting deer all together?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/16 at 10:54 AM

Thanks for sharing the photo of the albino buck, what an awesome thing to see in the wild! Nice bucks on the ground also, it’s an old cliche’ but so true…“a trophy is in the eyes of the beholder”, as long as you respect the game and are thrilled with the experience, don’t worry about someone else’s definition of a trophy.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/16 at 12:54 PM

I agree Swivel.
Its pretty much crappy that even though you own your own property and spend countless hours working on its timber/cropland and wildlife habitat, that others think it is their job to govern the type of deer you shoot. If someone paid my property taxes or mowed my pastures maybe I would allow them a say in it but the truth is people are so caught up in big buck management that they cant even congratulate their neighbor on a kill, they would rather critisize him for shooting a buck under 4 years of age!!! I am tired of it all. I hunt on a family farm of 400 acres in Brown county and take many does every year along with a buck or two every year. I do hunt for giants like everyone else and try not to shoot anything smaller than what I have on the wall but jeez….its sad that if I hunt all year and have a great morning hunt that ends up with me calling in a 135” buck and I harvest that deer I become the bad guy. Neighbors, even friends crack jokes with a seriousness in their voices, ruining any excitment I was experiencing. I do understand that to manage for a herd of giant whitetail bucks we need to let the 1 1/2, 2 1/2, and even some 3 1/2 year old deer go, but seriously are we that selfish that we can not enjoy in the excitement and good times with Family, friends and neighbors no matter what size or sex the animal may be. And SELFISH is the correct word! Not everyone has the time and money to spend the most days in the woods pursuing a giant, and not everyone is in there looking for horns to put on the wall. Everyone has the right to hunt their piece of property however they wish as long as it is lawful. We need to accept that not every landowner is going to be a member of the QDMA and thats their right. I would like to know how BIG D would feel if people did not join in on celebrating him for killing a 180” deer but instead critisized him for passing up so many does and younger bucks. All im saying is we should be more forgiving and congratulate our fellow hunters for the time the have spent and the memories they have created. We will never all be the same…

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/16 at 12:55 PM

Also I work for a company in Beardstown and they have a couple farms in Schuyler County. At both farms there have been Albino deer sited. One northeast of Browning had an albino buck the size of the one in the photo and the other farm north of Beardstown had a pair of albino twins hanging around all of last summer.
And I agree with Bill.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/16 at 12:58 PM

SELFISH IS THE CORRECT TERM!!  U were so selfish that u harvested a 135 most likely immature deer.  U can have a good experience in the timber without even harvesting a animal. RIGHT?  What i am saying is that bucks need time to mature to be a trophy and there is no sense harvesting them at 1,2,or even 3.  The real ? is how many 135 do u want to mount or why harvest a buck to saw off his antlers let him grow and your experience will be alot more rewarding with a big 250 pound illinois buck rather than 175 pound 2 1/2 year old.  The trophy is in the eyes of the beholder, but who says u have to harvest one.  Does that summon up your deer season is to shoot a buck of any caliber?  If so I hope u do not hunt around my area.  By the way my definition of a trophy is a mature buck 4 yr or older regardless of what he is going to score cause genetics play a big role in the size of the rack!!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/16 at 01:58 PM

Hey don he didnt say he harvested 135 deer he said a 135 inch deer.. You might want to read before you jump down someons throat. I agree with the other guys, a trophy is in the eye of the beholder. In my opinion i dont want to shoot some old aged buck cause i eat the meat and i found the older it is the tougher and gamier it is. I dont waste deer so i have no issues if someone harvests a young deer if there gonna eat it. I have seen many so called “Trophy Hunters” that will shoot an old huge buck and then just get the mount and waste the meet, so before you jump down anyones throat think who is actually the better sportsman, the trophy hunter who kills an animal for a mount or the man who kills to feed his family. Also ill be darned if i sit all season long spend lots of money and it only happens that only shot i get is on a younger buck. MY PROPERTY, MY DEER, MY PICK.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/16 at 02:45 PM

Hey Big D,
You are not smart. You are calling a hunter selfish for shooting an “immature” buck??? You are the selfish one for wanting everyone to hunt the way you do and to let the small ones walk past.  Life is way to damn short to get caught up in how many years old bucks are when you shoot them.  Most people aint gonna remember 50 years from now the big buck you shot or didn’t shoot. Most of us are giong to remember the story behind the hunt.  Maybe these kids had a heck of a time hanging out with their family and they each got a deer to enjoy. Thats hunting.  I have a feeling that Big D represents the new age of deer hunting, the fad that has hit in recent years. The stupid rule that says only a mature buck is worth shooting. Get over yourself Big D, or go join up with stan potts and the other bone hunters that don’t care about the roots of hunting.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/16 at 04:31 PM

Last time I checked you can’t eat antlers. What is a trophy buck? 160-170-180-190? If you are out in the woods just for numbers book a flight to Texas and shot a high fenced deer. Congrats to anyone who harvests a deer regardless of the size

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/16 at 07:03 PM

Hey Big D, if you’re so worried about people killing immature deer, why don’t you take the place of our wonderful governor and then you can sell big bucks to everyone.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/16 at 08:07 PM

Unfortunately, it’s the culture of deer hunting entertainment…the print media, including books, magazine articles, video productions all place primary emphasis on huge antlers, it’s what we want to see and emulate, myself included. But, we must respect and accept what others deem a trophy. If my neighbor takes a year and a half old 6 pointer and harvested it legally and ethically, I’m going to be thrilled for him or her. Sure, I’d like to have seen that buck grow a few years, but until the law says that deer is illegal to harvest, the hunter has every right to take whatever “trophy” he/she deems worthy.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/17 at 10:08 AM

Hunting is really fun and simple if you do not worry about antlers.  If it’s brown it’s down.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/17 at 10:28 AM

I personally don’t care what people think. I have my own rule of thumb…. I won’t pass up anything on the first day that I would shoot on the last. I enjoy the sport too much. I get just as much enjoyment out of hunting does in the late season as I do hunting for a big mature buck in November. I have been fortunate enough to take numerous 125-145” deer over the years. Maybe some day I will get lucky enough to take a 180” deer. I’m not sitting in a tree year after year waiting on it. Just because they are not mounted on my wall, doesn’t mean there isnt a super memory that goes with it. Same said for the experience of taking a few does in the late seasons.
Who cares. Have fun with it and cherish the memories!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/17 at 02:45 PM

Guys! I have lost all but 2 farms to hunt on in the last 5 years to outfitter,out-of-staters leasing up ground and locals leasing up ground.I have a 40 acre piece right behind my hours that I had a very nice 12 pointer on game camera. I had passed on him for 2 years and he was now a 3 year old. I had harvested 4 does off that property instead of taking him. The first day of firearm season, this buck was killed on the 80a next door. I was pissed until I heard that a 12 year old boy harvested his first deer ever. It made me stop and think about my first deer and my first buck. I would have liked to see him frow another year or two, but there’ll be more and I’m ticled for the kid. My deer hunting is fast coming to smaller and smaller areas to hunt, so I might as well get my satisfactions from the shear pleasure of the outdoors and time spent with friends and family. Besides, that what I most fondly remember about the good old days anyway.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/17 at 06:36 PM

so, enough with the size of the buck harvested.  illinois has a ton of deer, we need to shoot does also.  hey, we can even shoot young bucks, antlers aren’t everything.  i feel sorry for ur wife if u are all about size BIG D, i can just see you telling her to give it a few years to grow.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/17 at 07:18 PM

I can see both sides. Yeah, if you are young or just getting into hunting, who cares what you shoot. We all have to start out somewhere. Then there are years where all you seem to see are the little bucks. On the other side there is no greater frustration after passing on a young buck so many times to see your neighbor take him instead of the 6 does next to him. Oh well, there are more out there I guess.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/17 at 07:39 PM

why is it illegal to shoot albino deer.  is it true they can not breed?  if this is true, why not harvest them?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/17 at 07:53 PM

It is my choice to sit in a stand for days on end looking for that buck of a lifetime but as I have gotten older I have realized one thing and thats “if a guy or gal is happy with what they have shot, then I am happy for them”.  Lifes to short to worry about inches of antlers.  I still love bow hunting and if sitting there all day for a doe, then thats fine with me.  I still enjoy watching them goofy little bucks act stupid.  This year I watched a 1 1/2 damn near nock himself over trying to lick a spot on his back. Bottom line, if its a trophy for you, Im happy for ya.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/17 at 11:05 PM

You would think that after 25 + years of hunting you would get over the 8pt, 9pt excitement. (based on the picture above)  I get it, you own your own land, your within your rights, I would do the same if I was twelve.  I could sympathize with someone taking a few smaller bucks early in their career, but after that come on.  Don’t you like a challenge.  Provided you have done a little scouting, how hard is it to take a deer with a shotgun? 

Not everyone has the time and money to spend the most days in the woods pursuing a giant, and not everyone is in there looking for horns to put on the wall. 

Give me a break Whackemenstakem, you have 400 acres to hunt on every year, and you are complaining about not having the time, not everyone is looking for horns.  Get some perspective, to hear someone who has the ability to hunt on what is most likely 400 acres of light hunting pressure at best is pathetic.

I am sure that your family works hard for that land and deserves every inch of it, but don’t complain, it’s just sad.  Why would you congratulate someone for shooting a small buck without knowing the story behind it.  Hunting is about you vs the deer, your wits vs. theirs.  Why would you want some stranger’s congratulations for shooting a deer? 

Read some books about deer hunting in high pressured areas and the work that some people put into the sport to be successful, those are the one’s who deserve a congratulations.  Congratulating a group of 4 who shot two small bucks with a shotgun on private, low hunting pressure ground hardly deserves more than the time that it took to type this blog.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/18 at 12:17 AM

Quote by Ted Nugent.  Trophy Deer =  Any deer quartering away at 15 yds.

....did anyone see the words horn or antlers in his quote? If I don’t get excited when I see a doe or button buck walk near my stand, then I will give up deer hunting.  Its called deer hunting season, not buck hunting season.  My god, if everyone shot only 7 year old bucks we would be up to our ears in deer carcasses on the highway.  Nice buck photos….they look tasty too.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/18 at 07:58 AM

Amen Bowhunterdave…. To each thier own. Every deer I take is a trophy in my book.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/18 at 08:57 AM

I can’t stand seeing people posed up behind some young bucks.  What a waste.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/18 at 11:37 AM

bit ur qwitchin, meats meat.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/18 at 01:47 PM

I kill doe’s and nice bucks it depends on the place i hunt. Some places these are trophies,but for the seasoned hunter take a picture or video it will last longer and the memory will still be thier.The kill should not be the thrill of hunting.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/18 at 06:55 PM

The Nuge card, classic.  Keep in mind that the Whackmaster is a passionate archery hunter.  I seriously doubt that the Nuge is still whacking the little bucks.  I’m sure that he still gets excited when one is quartering away at 15 yds, but he most likely lets them see another day.  You should check out his website, the pictures that he posts are just slightly different then the one above.  I’m not saying only shoot old bucks.  Shoot whatever you damn well please, it’s your right.  I am of the opinion that posting pictures of a small buck with an ear to ear grin is pathetic, with a few exceptions of course. You should do the math on road kill deer.  The only reason that it appears that deer are causing problems on are highways is because there are more drivers out on the road each and every year.  Do the math, you have higher probabilty of getting into an accident with another driver than you do a deer. 

If every deer that I shot was a trophy in my “book”, I would be embarrassed that my “book” didn’t contain any words.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/18 at 11:17 PM

Big D is an imposter!!  The real BigD has just informed me of this.  Not the same BigD from bowsite!  Just letting you know.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/19 at 10:20 AM

When I see someone smiling like those two holding up those little bucks I want to puke. Bucks that size are stupid during the rut. I can only excuse someone for that if they are a kid a woman or a cripple. No “real deer hunter” tees off on a stupid defenseless animal like that. Come on wake up fellas, you’re in schyler county for gods sake. Wait it out or shoot a doe.  Don’t ruin it for everyone else that’s putting in the time to put some big bones on the wall.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/19 at 10:36 AM

Sure see a lot of “I” and “Me” quotes from those using words like:  “disappointed” or embarrassed”.  Can’t you just be happy for people who are happy with their experiences.  I’m sure this story was shared to show a family hunting together and having a great time.  We as hunters are all in this thing together, and unfortunately hunter numbers are on the decline.  For recruitment purposes, we really should present a united front.  I guess what I’m saying is: enjoy hunting the way you need to, but also let others enjoy it their way.  As long as we stay within the laws, neither way is more right than the other.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/19 at 10:39 AM

I can’t believe what I just read. The whole frickin blog. I have shot several nice trophies. I was lucky enought to arrow a 200” buck last November. I like seeing big bucks just like everyone else. But if we wait for 170”+ deer and it takes that to be a trophy, what will the next phase be? Now they got to be 200” to be a trophy. I have hunted for over 20 years and the 200” I got last year was the only deer I have ever seen that big. We as hunter are to busy worrying about what everyone else does and the first to criticize when someone shoots something we don’t think we would do. I know alot of Bowhunting friends that have caught themselves up in saying I won’t shoot another doe or a little buck and a week or two later they kill one… Wasp I can’t believe your comment about the only excuse for someone killing a buck like in the photo is a kid, women or a CRIPPLE!!!! Pretty damn low ther buddy! One question I do have is how many trophies does a guy need to have on the wall? I have 5. 4 really nice bucks, the first is a 10 point I shot one of the first years I hunted. We need to quit making hunting a competition, I shot more than a buddy, or my bucks bigger than his. Just be happy God gave us such a fine animal to harvest. Merry Christmas everyone!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/19 at 12:20 PM

I would be all for revoking hunting licenses for a year for anyone shooting a buck under 120 inches. The problem is that if someone shot one on accident they would probably just leave it lay to keep their license.I would set up an exception to that rule for kids under 16, women and handicapped individuals. Bucks should be allowed to grow up so us trophy hunters can pursue our sport. Shoot a doe if you can’t shoot a decent buck.There’s nothing more frustrating than having a bunch of weekend warriors coming out to the property beside you and whacking all of the little bucks in the name of family entertainment. Go bowling or something.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/19 at 05:40 PM

my advice to all of you slamming that family for shooting those bucks buy your own property manage it the way you want to until then grow up you guys really need to get a life just because you shoot a buck 150+ makes you more of a man The thing that bothers me about this whole article is some idiot who reads this will go and kill that white deer because now every idiot in the state knows where it is my dad shot a buck about 140 I guess I should be disappointed or embarrassed for him oh wait the man is not crippled been hunting for 55 yrs has heart failure cant fish anymore because he cant be in the sun cant walk more then 2oo ft on a good day but he should pass on you guys definition of a trophy because to me He shot one hell of a trophy and everyone in our camp agreed This was going to be his last yr hunting but after that hunt he is already talking about next yr I hope he is here to kill another trophy just like the one this year

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/19 at 05:55 PM

Some of you guys need to get a life!!!! Its prolly to late. The Mantle family got together for a family hunt. Shot a couple nice deer. Nothing I would put on my wall, but they are trophys to them because of the memories they had. Damn people get a life. There are so many negative things going on in this country and world and we get on here and bitch about a family enjoying there time here on earth doing a little deer hunting. I think its great. You never know what tomorrow brings. The way everyone thinks the deer herds going down in a few years there might not be any deer to hunt. The smile on there faces tell the story, to bad some of the guys on this blog are to worried they might have killed on of there bucks, you might have got the story if you didn’t…

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/19 at 06:20 PM

I remember when, hunting with my uncle in the 1980’s, it was mostly about meat and a big buck was a bonus (in part because it was bigger and yielded more meat).
Anyways, for the complete other side of the coin, one of my Mom’s friend’s husbands is one of the more serious outdoorsmen I have ever met.  Does things like collect acorns and boils the acid out of them so he can make flour.  He hunts, and when he gets a deer, he does not even want a picture taken because he feels that making a spectacle out of the animal is disrespectful.
I don’t agree with that position, but I respect the man (even if he may be a bit of a flake).  Just bringing it up because it’s kind of an interesting counter position to the trophy hunting crowd.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/19 at 09:07 PM

mitch myers just curious how many acres do you own weekend warriors is that another term for employed my guess you dont own squat you havent shot squat and you work at mcdonalds I got a better regulation if you dont own the land or have a landowner waiver then you get a doe tag good for any state ground when you check it in they will give you 2 free games of bowling

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/20 at 08:05 AM

hunter770 you’re wasting your time on individuals like the one mentioned in your last comment.  They are beyond common sense and help for that matter.  They are poor ambassadors and even worse stewards for the true hunting heritage.  I worry that hunting is dying because of the decline in new hunters and believe that we need all we can recruit.  Maybe now it’s become more a matter of quality of person over quantity of people and that we could do without these immature shortsighted people.  Enjoy each hunt knowing that you’re respecting every animal for the trophy that it is.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/20 at 09:22 AM

Myers is on the money. Make him head of the DNR.Enough of this nonsense from these weekend warriors who are inefficient with their weapons. If you can’t shoot a big buck then shoot a doe or don’t shoot at all.  I’ve killed several trophies all of which I was very proud of. I loved showing them off at the gas station and my wall is full. If I shot a little buck I would saw off the rack and throw it in the corner of the garage, what’s the point? Shoot does only if you want meat

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/20 at 03:51 PM

Hunter 770 needs to return to the fifth grade and so he can learn to form a sentence

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/20 at 03:53 PM

wasp now that we established your grade level 5th I will try to make this clear I wasnt going to waste my time until you mentioned how you love showing off your trophy at the gas station I will assume thats also where you work As a hunter you people discust me you pull up in front of a gas station pop the tailgate for all to see well in case you dont know this pea brain not everybody wants to see a dead deer while their getting gas you cast a negative image on hunting their are groups out there that would like to eliminate hunting your so stupid you probably didnt even know that next time you want to show off your deer drive around your trailer park

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/21 at 07:47 AM

I only shoot the small ones.  They taste better. Who want’s to shoot a big buck when there’s a small one around?  OK, OK, the big one’s are a bonus, but I’ll never pass up some good meat.

Keep taking any buck you want!  Have fun doing it!  THAT’S what it’s all about.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/21 at 09:58 AM

People still don’t get the message of shooting any deer.  The point is if u want meat which is being stated then shoot a doe.  There are enough out there ATLEAST a 3 to 1 ratio in the whole state and that most likely is far off.  I have read the term stewards, ambassadors, and others that refer to responsible hunters used.  Well if these are supposed to refer to the meat hunters then why not let that small buck grow and harvest a doe.  It has been stated that harvesting a trophy does not matter so just let every buck walk then.  Harvesting a animal does not complete the hunt it is about the time and memories spent in the field or does that complete your season.  I have harvested one doe this year and frankly until the past few weeks was worried about the deer heard (they have been hiding well this year).  Also the qoute of new hunters there are more people in the field now more than ever.  If u don’t believe that then why is everyone complaining about having a place to hunt.  They issued alone around 300,000 gun tags!!  Glad the numbers were down or everyone would be really upset about not seeing any deer.  So next time u want to argue about your right on what animal to harvest think about this a well balanced deer heard and that is being a real steward of the sport!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/21 at 11:02 AM

Wasp you discuss me. I knows your type. When you get a deer you probally drive around with it in your truck with the tailgate down for 3 days. Its jerks like you that give all us hunters bad names. With PETA and all the tree huggers out there we don’t need people showing off the deer at the gas stations. Take it home and hang it up and then invite your buddies to come take a look! big d you started this article bad mouthing this family about shooting lil bucks, Did you ever think maybe they didn’t bow hunt and only had a day or two to gun hunt. As cold as the weather was during gun season maybe it was the first deer that walked by and so they shot them. Get a life. You can tell gun season is over for a while and its cold out, some people need to get a life.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/21 at 11:17 AM

Big D,

I’m not trying to be argumentative or anything, but what exactly is a “well balanced deer herd”? Maybe what you consider “well balanced” is not what I consider well balanced. One mature buck, no matter how large his rack is, can stud a lot of does.  Does it really matter how large of a rack he has?

Also, what you consider being a “steward of the sport” is not what I consider being a “steward of the sport”.  While we may agree on a lot, I cringe at people just out for a trophy. To me that’s NOT being a good “steward of the sport”.

Killing something just to put a head on the wall is not what I would consider being a good steward of the sport.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/21 at 01:12 PM

Well balanced what else does he have to explain is that so hard to understand!!  Big D I agree with u and it is just to hard for these people to admitt that they are all trophy hunting too and just have to settle for the first deer to walk by cause they are to impatient and careless hunters to put the time and effort into trying to harvest a mature animal.  These guys must be part time hunters with the excuses they use to harvest any deer. It is horrible that there is even a debate on why we should pass up younger deer buck or doe.  With the deer herd in this state being at its best, and as many doe’s that we have outnumbering bucks.  The real question to all u meat hunters is why not let a young buck go.. PERIOD!  END OF DEBATE.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/21 at 02:14 PM

I actually pride myself on NOT trophy hunting. When instructing young kids, I stress the sport is not about the trophy. So, Mr. THE MAN, you are flat out wrong. I do shoot a lot of does, however, when I’m deer hunting, I won’t pass on a shot. PERIOD! ENDO OF DEBATE. grin

Oh, and PS, what’s a part-time deer hunter?  Less than 40 hours a week? If so, I would qualify. PERIOD! END OF DEBATE.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/21 at 03:13 PM

Congratulations on teaching are youngsters to shoot the first thing that walks by. You are a true detriment to the sport. Do you also teach them the value of getting on a good beer buzz before climbing into their tree stand while you pass them a cigarette? I suspect you are now a proud NON trophy hunter after years of failure in the woods trying to take one. That is the case with every person I have ever heard say that. Any time someone is really bad at something but continues to do it they always make sure everyone knows they’re not in it to succeed.  That way when they fail people don’t make fun of them as much. Come on man, you’d love nothing more than to score on a big one and make everyone in the trailer park jealous.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/21 at 07:57 PM

Wasp your TheMan!!! Not to bad you got to use two names on here to try and get your dumb-ss comments accross.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/21 at 08:34 PM

You know big d if it’s not about the harvest why don’t you let that old wise buck walk?  You’ve used exceptional skills to get close enough to kill him.  Take a picture and let him walk.  Really wouldn’t that be best for the herd?  He could continue to spread those genes.  But I would never try to tell you which deer to harvest.  That’s not my business nor should it be.  That’s your personal decision and that’s how it should be.  Anyway good luck to you.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/21 at 08:38 PM

wasp61, LOL!  You know not what (or who) you’re talking about my friend. You’re comments do amuse though. I’m not going to get into my qualifications as a deer hunter, however, if you knew, you would be singing a VERY different tune.

Anyway, it’s a far stretch from teaching about respecting the animal you take, to getting a buzz on before hunting. LOL!

I think your rant is a good indication of how ridiculous some of us deer hunters have become. How some trophy hunters compare guys who have different views to people who teach kids to drink and hunt. Wow!

Your comments do more to paint you as a dumb -ss than I could ever do. 

You can always create yet ANOTHER name for yourself to defend your comments though.

Take care.  Merry Christmas my friend. Peace.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/21 at 09:21 PM

This is the first time I’ve read this type of column and responses, and I’m almost embarassed to be included in the number of folks who call themselves “hunters”.  I don’t own any land except that on which my house sits.  I have fewer places to hunt each year due to land changing hands.  I have less time to hunt due to more necessary work.  I have less time to spend in the woods with my family.  I have children who are growing too fast, and leaving too soon.  I realize the pronoun “I” is prominent in this note.  I don’t care.  I don’t care if one shoots a young buck, an old doe, a “monster”, or a fawn.  I want more hunters.  Being a first-time reader of this column about albino deer, I would read the responses and think, “Do I want to be associated with a bunch of self-righteous, pompous, arrogant, demeaning, ridiculing people such as these?”  Live and let live, for cryin’ out loud, or we’ll pass on to other readers that hunters can’t stand each other, so why be one?  Is that what YOU want?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/21 at 10:08 PM

It’s so funny to me,or maybe sad is the right word,about how worked up some people get over what size deer other people shoot.Good grief,it’s their deer permit and if their filling it legally who cares what they shoot.It’s “their” hunt,not yours or mine.When I go out for a hunt,before I climb into that tree i’ll kneel down at the base of the tree,pray to God and ask for a safe hunt and return me home safely to my family,then i’ll pray that if it’s his will that some deer will come by and that i’ll have the skills to take it in a good humane way. I figure what ever deer walks by is the one God meant for me to take home and feed my wife and 3 kids and i’ll be thankfull for it.If it’s a 180” buck,(which I have one on the wall) thats great,if it’s a small year and a half 8 pt. ,then thats great,if it’s a doe,then thats great.I’ve been bowhunting around 20 years now and I still really don’t care what it is.That small 8 pt. or a doe is gonna thrill me as much as that 180” 13 pointer did.And that small 8 pt. sure tasted better than that big 180” deer did !.....LOL Anyway, I just shoot what the good lord has walk by me.
  OK, now i’ll sit back and take the heat some of you are gonna give me for the way I hunt.That’s ok,bring it on!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/22 at 08:01 AM

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