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Vicki Kapraun of Metamora shot this Fulton County buck on Sunday, Dec. 7, 2008 on the final day of Illinois second firearm deer hunting season.

Second season success stories

December 09, 2008 at 07:11 AM

Frigid would be a good word to describe this year’s second firearm deer hunting season in Illinois.

Opening day dawned cold and ended cold and windy to pretty much set the tone for the second segment of shotgun and muzzleloader hunting.

Most anticipate that cold weather will hinder harvest numbers, even after a below-average first firearm season. Even so, there were success stories being told as the cold, snowy weekend came to a close. Maybe not a lot of success stories, but a few.

One of those belongs to Vicki Kapraun of Metamora, who shot the big buck Fulton County buck pictured above on the morning of Sunday, Dec. 7. Kapraun was rewarded after hunting through the cold weather all weekend to shoot the buck of her dreams.

While Brian Damery of Blue Mound didn’t quite shoot the buck of his dreams, he did down a nice deer Sunday evening. Damery, you may recall, has already bagged the buck of a lifetime. Click here to re-read the story of his massive 12-pointer from 1993 which had the highest grossing typical frame of any deer ever at 231 1/8 inches and was officially scored at 200 2/8 inches. Though his latest buck can’t compare to that, the deer’s 14-point frame is impressive.

Damery’s 2008 buck was green-scored Sunday by Lynn Wilcox and Kevin Chapman (that’s right, the author of KC’s Bowhunting Blog) and grossed 186 5/8 inches non-typical and netted 177 4/8 inches non-typical. The 14-pointer (one point was too small to score) had a 19 3/4-inch inside spread and the buck’s 11-point typical frame grossed 171 4/8 inches. We’ll have more on this buck later today after we check in with Damery.

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Macon County yielded another nice buck in the second season to Jim Ray of Macon. Hunting on Friday Ray got cold in his stand and decided to walk back to his four-wheeler. When he peaked around a corner to look down a deer trail, he saw some does and the tall-tined buck pictured below. “I couldn’t see any of his body besides his neck and I got down on my knees and leaned over and shot him from about 115 paces,” Ray said. He hit the buck in the neck and the deer dropped.

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In Montgomery County, Shane Niemi shot this 8-point buck on Saturday morning (Dec. 6, 2008). Writes Niemi, “I had not seen a deer all morning when I decided to get out of the stand around 8 a.m. I started gathering my things and took one last look around and noticed this buck only 20 yards away!”

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Check back for more updates throughout the week. We will provided updates as they are available.

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Second season harvest numbers are delayed until Wednesday morning.

Most expect the second season harvest to be under 30,000. Coupled with the first season harvest of 71,894, there’s a chance Illinois could be under 100,000 for total firearm harvest.

If there is an upside to the cold second weekend of firearm hunting, it’s that the late-winter antlerless-only season in January can hardly be colder. And unfilled permits from firearm season can be used in the late-winter hunt, provided the county for which they were issued is open to that Jan. 16-18 hunt.

Counties that will be open for the Late-Winter season are: Adams, Bond, Brown, Bureau, Calhoun, Carroll, Cass, Christian, Clark, Clay, Clinton, Coles, Crawford, Cumberland, Edgar, Edwards, Effingham, Fayette, Franklin, Fulton, Greene, Grundy, Hamilton, Hancock, Henderson, Henry, Jackson, Jasper, Jefferson, Jersey, Jo Daviess, Johnson, Knox, LaSalle, Lawrence, Lee, Logan, Macoupin, Madison, Marion, Marshall, Massac, McDonough, McLean, Menard, Mercer, Monroe, Montgomery, Morgan, Ogle, Peoria, Perry, Pike, Putnam, Randolph, Richland, Rock Island, Saline, Sangamon, Schuyler, Scott, Shelby, Stark, St. Clair, Stephenson, Tazewell, Union, Vermilion, Wabash, Warren, Washington, Wayne, White, Whiteside, Williamson, and Woodford.

Here are the late-winter regulations spelled out by the Department of Natural Resources:

Illinois resident hunters must have a current, valid Late-Winter Deer Season Permit, or an unfilled deer permit valid for the previous firearm, muzzleloader or youth deer season and valid for one of the open counties. Nonresident hunters must have an unfilled firearm or muzzleloader deer permit valid for the previous firearm or muzzleloader deer season and valid for one of the open counties. A Late-Winter Deer Season Permit is issued for one county or special hunt area and is valid only in the county or special hunt area stated on the permit. Unfilled firearm, muzzleloader or youth deer permits are valid only for the county for which they were originally issued, except that unfilled landowner property-only hunting firearm deer permits are valid only for the farmlands that the person to whom it was issued owns, leases, or rents within the open counties/portions of counties. Unfilled firearm, muzzleloader or youth deer permits that were originally issued for special hunt areas are not valid during the Late-Winter Deer Season unless: A) the hunter’s name is redrawn at the daily site lottery to hunt at the same special hunt area during the Late Winter Season, or. B) the special hunt area is open to persons with a county permit and the special hunt area does not conduct a daily site lottery. Sites conducting a daily site lottery will be announced publicly.

 

 

 

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How are the counties determined for the Late-Winter season.  Are counties ever added to the list prior to the season.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/07 at 09:26 PM

They have added counties in the past.  I think it’s based on population estimates in that county.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/08 at 09:12 AM

Terrific buck Vicki! Good job for sticking with it through the lousy weather.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/08 at 09:41 AM

Well,the second season appeared to be a bigger disaster than the first. Cold weather certainly played some part but after spending a considerable number of hours out, there were very few deer to be seen and fewer shots heard. Again, I hunt in the Mackinaw River bottoms in Tazewell County and I believe I might as well been sitting at home. This is certainly the least # of deer and least # of shots in a # of seasons. I sure don’t have the answer but something doesn’t add up. Late Harvest,deer #‘s?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/08 at 12:41 PM

Good job hunters.

Im predicting harvest numbers will be down 30% or more from last year. I myself killed 4 deer with my muzzeloader last year and this year I have yet to get one.  My dad has 2 tags and has got none. My neighbor has got nothing. My best friend, nothing…. you guys get the point.

Possibly some good could come out of this….possibly.  Who knows if it will drive down recreational land prices and maybe limit the expansion of outfitters and out of state hunters.  I expect just one year wouldn’t do this , but if next years harvest are lows and frustrations are high….... who knows!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/08 at 05:31 PM

Awesome Bucks Vicky, Brian and Jim - CONGRATULATIONS!  We had pretty much the same as others commenting in Greene County with not a lot of sightings, and also not very much shooting.  It appears that the deer in our area are now in a late season pattern.  Close to food sources, and not moving until the last few minutes of light.  We did finally got some deer moving and a couple harvested on Sun, but only after getting some drives going.  The deer were holding tight and wouldn’t move unless you were going to step on them.  Looking forward to next weekend for Muzzleloader season and again in Jan for the late firearms season.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/08 at 06:05 PM

Well Bill. most of us don’t shoot the first deer we see.  Some of us actually challenge ourselves to go after older bucks and older doe’s.  Shot what you like, but don’t come on here thinking your some great hunter because you shoot everything in sight.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/08 at 10:56 PM

I hunted in Galena (JoDaviess County) this past season.  I saw a group of four does twice (two yearlings and two adult does).  Never had a decent chance to shoot at the mature does.  Never saw one buck after many hours in the woods.  I did see many tracks every day.  I think the deer were hiding out in the standing corn on the neighbors property.  During bow season I did see four very large bucks!  Hopefully it will be a good sign for late season bow hunting.  Do you guys think the deer will be settled down enough to be successful this weekend with my bow???  Please let me know your opinion if one week of no pressure should help the bucks come back out and behave in their “normal” patterns.  Hopefully the snow will help cover old sents left behind by hunters last weekend.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/09 at 07:35 AM

nice bill I am impressed what you get 2 booners one dominant doe?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/09 at 07:47 AM

I think we all know that this has been an off year. weather seems to have been the biggest influence where I hunt, Brown County.  It appears a warming trend might slow things down again for muzzleloader season.  The deer are out there but is has been hard to pattern them due to lots of late crop cover and circumstances.  By the way Bill if you did indeed kill these to popers put some pictures up and maybe guys will lay off and nobody likes a bragger especially when everyone sturggled.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/09 at 04:22 PM

Bill, i have never heard of someone killing two 160+ deer in the first year of bowhunting.  You do realize that the numbers 165 and 174 doesnt mean what the deer weighed, right? Show some pics bill. Otherwise, leave the talkin to the politicians. who knows, maybe you are one.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/09 at 05:10 PM

Guys, Bill has been blowing his mouth on here for about a month. If we didn’t already have the Worlds greatest hunter I think it could be Bill. Best thing for you Bill is to Just be quiet and keep your opinion and lies to yourself!!! This is a good site, we don’t need asses lying on here…

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/09 at 06:35 PM

Bill: What did the 3rd one score?  Please don’t insult children here, Mr. great hunter.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/09 at 06:39 PM

lungbuster even if bills scores are weight not antlers those would be nice young(children) deer like to see some pics bill even if that is weight not antlers still good job 3 deer first yr that must be where all the deer have gone if every newbie is killing 3 plus deer mmmm couple that with the one plus they dont recover ?????

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/09 at 07:09 PM

Bill, what did you kill these deer on a video game?
Sorry, they don’t count.  Pen raised deer don’t count either.  Why don’t you post some pics so we can see your trophies since you are such a great hunter.  I don’t relish on the deer I shot last year, I go after a bigger one and usually connect based on skill not beginners luck.>>>>——————>

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 12:17 AM

Union co we did ok I took a nice 8 Point this year. But much like every one else we did not hear near the amount of shots we are use to hearing from the nearby areas where our neighbors hunt. One thing I did notice that did seem a bit different was the amount of small bucks that had bad antler growth/broken antlers this year. Don’t believe food source was the issue since all properties that surround us are agriculture not sure what happened

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 06:34 AM

Hey Bill,  Maybe you can’t read but the signs that say “STATE PARK, NO HUNTING” are Illegal to hunt, now we know how you killed your deer. I am with everyone else, show your trophies, you rookie!!!!!!!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 08:27 AM

Bill, one good year does not make a “great hunter”, if you actually had a good year. Ask Devon Hester(da Bears).Come back in 10 years and show us all your 200+ class bucks. Should be no problem as good as you are.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 09:52 AM

William got a little quite now that we want to see his pictures. problem is he prolly never killed squat! Just stay quite goofball

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 10:22 AM

hey Billly, whats this score of 174/1.5? everything is done in 1/8 dumbass

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 10:24 AM

You guys are giving bill way to much energy. Ignore trolls and they go away. Look at the bright side fellows. The deer need to win some years, and next should only be better. And our governor is arrested with hopefully many more to follow.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 12:20 PM

go away bill. oh I’m sorry I mean “great hunter”

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 01:50 PM

Poor little billy has a complex… If you have to go around patting yourself on the back so much then maybe you have issues.
As far as success as a deer hunter goes, I don’t measure my success in inches, but rather the experience of hunting as a whole. I truly believe your missing the entire point of hunting Bill. I have a wall full of bucks bigger than yours but I don’t feel to be an attention whore and brag about it. Stay home noobie.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 01:58 PM

I was down at Presley’s the other day, don’t recall seeing anyone that had two nice bucks on the board. Put them up on the website, send them to Lampe. Show us your hunting skills, enough said.  I personally think your a blow hard who has no back bone.  “Put up” or “Shut up”.  Wanna B

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 01:58 PM

Good point Dan J.There is alot more to deer hunting than filling tags. I wish I was a “great hunter”.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 02:08 PM

Worlds greatest hunter II wow your full of crap!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 02:33 PM

Guys,  With everyone kicking poor ol’ Billy in the last tooth he has left in his mouth can anyone please answer the following question….  Does anyone think this weekend will be good for bow hunting???  Given the full moon, snow this week, week off from shotgun, etc.  Now maybe poor ol’ Billy can go out and shoot a third monster.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 03:07 PM

If even if you did kill two big bucks this year, that sitll doesn’t make a great hunter because even a blind squirrel can lucky and find a few nuts now and then. Anway nobody but Peoria guys have a chance to see these mysterious pics, show put your pics where your mouth is and post them on here or leave the blog.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 04:39 PM

I heard its gonna rain and be windy by weekends end. I sure am gonna try. You cant kill anything if you are not in the woods.I havent got anything yet this year also. But im not gonna quit until the last hour of light falls on the last day of this season. Good luck to all in the upcoming days left. Maybe we can be as lucky as Bill AKA Great Hunter!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 06:05 PM

Bill you know I killed 2 bucks same morning the first yr you could get 2 archery tags Jack Ershman ran a storie about that in journal star superman stopped by and declared me super hunter I spoke with all the super heros last night they dont know you batman thought you might be a sidekick maybe your the invisible man like your pictures at presleys if not why dont you disappear from here anyway

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 07:10 PM

I really believe that a lot more deer were harvested that was actually reported. With the system that is in place now and the way the State is limiting the CPO’s, I would guess that a lot of kills went un-reported.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 07:17 PM

Bill’s busted, went to Presley’s this afternoon to look at pics, there isn’t a guy with two big bucks. Talked to guys in archery shop and they said only Bill they know that killed two bucks is a BIG blowhard whos bucks are usually scored 20 inches high. Thought you all would like this info on our “Great Hunter”.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 08:48 PM

This Bill we all speak of reminds me of a guy I use to work with. Talked the talk but couldn’t walk the walk. We ran him out because we got tired of listening to him. This Bill’s prototype reminds me of Brad Paisleys song,“Online” So much cooler online, still lives with his mom & dad. Let’s face it guys, we’re letting this moron ruin our site. Just ignore him and let him go deliver his pizza’s. Kudo’s to all who harvested deer this season. Whether it be a yearling, a doe, a 100 incher or a 200 incher. A “dead deer is a trophy regardless of size or gender. Whether it’s your first kill or 20th, it’s something that will be in your memory for life. To all the Hunter’s out there….
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year…........

                  Arrowman

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/10 at 09:15 PM

I have enjoyed the volley of flying bull posted above. I have deer hunted “bow and gun” in Illinois since 1963. During this time I have learned that in deer hunting, as in life never miss a chance to learn something. This first gun season our group of four, killed two mature bucks, one 2 1/2 and one 3 1/2. The abnormality of these two deer was that neither had any scent coming from their tarsal glads. I check the hides and they were not marked “Scent-Lok”? Seriously, Has anyone an explanation for the lack of musk on these two deer? The older buck I would guesstamate scored 140+/-.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/11 at 11:07 AM

Hi wolfhunter. I enjoy talking to guys who have hunted since the 60’s because of the fact they have hunted enough to notice real changes in deer behavior and so forth. I can help answer part of your question regarding the tarsal gland. I was impressed by the fact that you noticed the lack of scent from their glands as not too many hunters will pick up on that. First, the younger bucks only have a dark spot about the size of a half-dollar or even a quarter where their gland is, but a more mature buck will have a larger dark spot, usually the size of a soda can’s bottom. A 3 1/2 year old buck should have the larger size (and more scent), but may not have if he is NOT THE DOMINANT BUCK in your area. The dominant buck will own the area and urinate over his glands more often creating a more active gland thus darkening it (and creating more scent). The bucks you have may not have much scent because of this. This may be good news for you if you bow hunt the same area! I hope this sheds some insight!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/11 at 03:12 PM

Marc, i shot a buck Nov 14th it was not the DB however I watched it running scraplines for 3 hours before he finallly gave me a shot at 2pm he stunk to high hell my dad shot a buck 2nd day of shotgun no smell at all both deer were mature my question is where I hunt the rut was I beleive in full the week of halloween could the lack of scent be associated with an early rut I think the rut was for the most part long gone by shotgun? I have shot some bucks late season with no smell? with the buck to doe ratio so out of hand do bucks need to work as hard during the rut ? thus more does = less work on bucks less scent needed to attract does

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/11 at 04:31 PM

hunter770, I know even with a buck-to-doe ratio out of whack, the dominant bucks will still smell heavy with scent. It’s true that the biggest bucks might not have to work as hard, but it’s a territorial thing. He’ll make sure nobody moves into his territory if he can help it. He’s a bully and a tough guy and will take no prisoners! Now just because there is a DB in the area, doesn’t mean the other bucks just give up, it just means they can’t work the area in a dominant fashion. I also believe the rut came in early this year, but I can tell you the rut lasts much longer than many hunters believe, it just doesn’t peak for too long. In fact, I think the second rut will start tomorrow or even the next day. If they can lay scent for 45 days, they’ll do it! I’ve cut up bucks in my taxidermy studio in December that smell horrific, so again, I still believe it’s the dominant bucks that carry most of the smell. I am by no means a biologist, but I do study deer behavior in depth. Like most hunters, I’m still learning after almost 3 decades in the woods.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/11 at 04:51 PM

Thanks Marc I too am no biologist but I do study the woods in which I have hunted for 20 plus yrs our 300 had very little secondary food sources we had beans in this yr after the first week upon harvest activity in the fields died off. When cold weather finally hit they went for our oaks however this year was not a good yr for the white oaks at least on our place the deer moved to the corn on neighboring properties good thing for us we have reallly thick timber so even when they leave to feed they always come back I am hunting all weekend going to skip the AM start hunting about 10 till dark I have had numerous discussions on the rut I tell everybody not every doe cycles in November especailly the yearlings I look at the herd and when I find a large number of juveniles just starting to grow the long face I know come December it will be special. I have found fake scraps work really well during this 2nd rut. The only advice I can give is GO HUNTING take a kid with you enjoy what mother nature has to offer in December And as sure as the sun will rise tommorow the deer will school me as they do every year.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/11 at 05:37 PM

Good luck hunter770, I’m down to doe only now, but I’ll be out there! Let us know if you drop anything.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/11 at 05:52 PM

Took a nice 8 pointer and a decent doe end of the first day of second season.  Watched the same 3 deer and 21 turkey play all around me all day until the buck showed up.  The doe came about an hour later afer the first group scattered.  With all that, the best part of my hunt was going out on Saturday with my 11 year old son, who sat in the stand with me for over 2 hours in the morning and nearly 4 hours in the afternoon.  We saw 30 turkey and 1 doe in the morning and nothing until about 4:30pm when a very large doe showed herself at about 100 yards through the timber.  I instructed my kid not to shoot, because the shot selection was bad, the hour was late, and we might be able to get a better shot another day.  His excitement, though, was palpable as he sat shaking in his seat.  THAT is hunting my friends.  The kill is the icing on the cake.  Enjoy the woods, and good luck to all.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/13 at 01:23 PM

teaching your child to be a responsible hunter thats priceless he will remember that hunt for a long time even though he didnt shoot. Killing something is not what makes a hunt succesfull I enjoy every hunt every time, it becomes more special when a kid is with you. Went this morning had 6 does right away wind made them really itchy didnt stick around long, no bucks no shots I could have shot but chose not to but I watched the sky turn black with geese most of the morning reminded me of the old days of duck hunting goose hunters had a great day or at least they shot alot this wind not helping deer are holding real tight walked out through a draw got within 10 ft of a deer never did bolt just watched me as I walked by. I wont have another chance to hunt till after new yrs so good luck to everyone

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