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Mountain lion thought to have attacked teenage hunter

October 03, 2011 at 08:50 PM

The State Journal-Register

BAYLIS — A 14-year-old deer hunter said he was attacked by a mountain lion Sunday evening, just a minute’s walk from his family’s Pike County home.

His father, a Baptist minister, said his son was fortunate.

“If God had not protected that boy, it would have been over,” said Gary Dice, pastor of Grace Baptist Church in Pittsfield.

The young hunter, Jeremiah Dice, managed to fend off the attack with a knife and then ran home.

Jeremiah was taken to the emergency room out of fear of rabies, according to his mother, Pam Dice. He had no puncture wounds and was treated for scratches on his face and released.

Jeremiah described the mountain lion to a “t,” Gary Dice said.

The family was waiting Monday afternoon for representatives from the Illinois Department of Natural Resources to arrive and examine Jeremiah’s clothing and knife.

“DNR is concerned I can’t prove it,” Gary said. “I trust my son, and I want the truth.

“Regardless of what it was, it is still out there, and it attacked a human being.”

‘It’s big … I’m scared’

The attack occurred near Baylis, northwest of Pittsfield. There are only three confirmed reports of mountain lions in Illinois since they were eliminated from the state in the late 1800s. Missouri, however, has confirmed the big cats 26 times since 1994.

Gary Dice said his son was hunting in his stand when the boy heard a flock of turkeys take flight nearby.

“Then the deer started snorting,” Gary Dice said.

Jeremiah saw a large animal standing near a flag placed 20 yards from the deer stand to help hunters distance. Jeremiah then radioed his mother to alert her to what was going on.

The big cat walked out in the open, not far from a flag placed 30 yards out.

After hearing it leave the area, the boy radioed to tell her he was coming home.

“He said, ‘Mom, there’s a big cat back here,’” Gary said, relating Jeremiah’s words. “He said, ‘It’s big… he ran away, so I’m going to get down and go to the house. … I’m scared.’

“He took three steps, and it was on his back,” Gary said.

Jeremiah elbowed the animal in the ribs, throwing the animal off of him.

“He got to his knees, and there it was face to face with him,” Gary said. “He told me, ‘It just got real still, and I didn’t know what to do.’”

Jeremiah reported the animal’s breath smelled like “dead rabbits.”

“His fangs were out, and he looked eyeball to eyeball to me and lunged,” Gary said, retelling his son’s story.

The attack shredded the bill of Jeremiah’s cap and pushed it down over his face — providing some protection. His heavy camouflage coat was shredded down to the boy’s belt.

Verification sought

Jeremiah is already an experienced hunter at age 14.

“I’ve taught him to hunt since he was old enough to sit still,” Gary said. “He is about six feet tall and over 200 pounds. He is not just a kid.”

Jeremiah told his parents he starting swinging his hunting knife in an attempt to get the animal to leave. He cut it, but not deeply, and the animal knocked him backwards again. Jeremiah hit it in the ribs again and let go of his knife.

The big cat rolled off Jeremiah and ran off into the woods.

Gary Dice said his son started to run — backwards at first, to be sure the animal would not follow.

He grabbed his knife and ran for the house, “the fastest he had run in his life.”

When the elder Dice first heard the report of a mountain lion, he was a few minutes from home and skeptical.

“But then I saw him and the look on his face of terror and fear,” he said.

Gary Dice said Jeremiah’s description of the big cat was that it was as large as a Great Dane, with a long tail that curled.

Depending upon the sex, mountain lions range on average from 75 pounds for a female to 160 pounds for a male.

Gary Dice found the shredded cap, but never did find Jeremiah’s bow.

As for Jeremiah: “He’s fine,” his father said. “But he hasn’t slept since.”

Chris Young can be reached at 788-1528.


Identification

According to the website Living with Wildlife in Illinois, domestic dogs and bobcats are most likely to be misidentified as a mountain lion in Illinois.

Bobcats weigh 10-40 pounds, while mountain lions weigh 75-240 pounds. Both are secretive and elusive.

Most sightings are fleeting.

Mountain lions once were found throughout the United States, according to The Cougar Network.

Conversion of prairies to agriculture, logging of forests, elimination of prey species like white-tailed deer and predator-reduction programs led to their extirpation from Illinois by the 1870s.

Mountain lions

*”Mountain lion,” “cougar,” “puma,” “catamount” and “panther” all are names for the same animal: Puma concolor.

*There have only been three confirmed sightings of mountain lions in Illinois since the late 1800s.

*Missouri has had 26 confirmed reports since 1994.

*See a map of confirmed sightings.

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I dont think that a bobcat would be attacking something that was 6ft tall and over 200lbs..and givin the close distance pike county il is to missouri where there have been confirmed sitings of mountain lions, its not unreasonable to think that this really was a mountain lion that made its way across the river..makes sense..pike county has a TON of deer and with no predators to compete with, its very inviting to mountain lions in missouri…this article will make that walk to my stand in the wee morning hours that much more spooky

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/04 at 12:30 PM

Jeremiah is a lucky young man.

*There have only been three confirmed sightings of mountain lions in Illinois since the late 1800s.
The officals need to open their eyes!!

Too bad it wasn’t gun season.  I have heard cat loins are very good

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/04 at 12:31 PM

Maybe he was too close to a recent kill or something.  I agree, makes being out there a bit more spooky.  Will be interested to see any follow ups on this.  Must have been a huge adrenaline rush!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/04 at 01:45 PM

Here’s a link to a YouTube video of a television interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEsa8xmmtbU

Posted by Chris Young on 10/04 at 01:48 PM

thanks for the link chris. after seeing that video his injuries and clothing are in a lot better shape than i had thought they would be in. i was expecting to see a coat shredded to pieces and a hat bill torn off. as for the scratches on his face…those seem almost minimal, i think a mountain lions claws would do a little more damage than that, especially if it attacked him twice. you hear of stories of people fighting a mountain lion with everything they’ve got and they dont give up as easy as this one did..either he is really lucky, or this is a hoax..although i dont know why someone would go as far as to scratch themselves in the face and tear their coat and hat especially a 14yr old kid…it will be interesting to see what the investigation finds…still not sold that it was a bobcat either..i just can see a bobcat attacking something 10x its size…please keep us posted..

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/04 at 02:52 PM

I’d like to give the boy and the story credit but I’m pretty sure the mt. lions claws would have done a lot more then the damage done. I have seen what I am 99% positive was a mt lion in Bartonville,IL while in the 2nd story of the library through the observation window in the section of woods right behind/to the side of it. Pretty damn sure it was and actually had a person tell me BEFORE I told my story they had seen one several times and turned out they only live about 2 miles from the library. CRAZY!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/04 at 05:21 PM
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/04 at 05:36 PM

big ptown was that attack planned or something? after seeing that i guess that guy did escape with out serious injury and the mt lion gave up pretty quickly…and i have heard stories of a mt lion in east peoria, and out by snakeden hollow. Whats the rules on carrying a hand gun in to the woods during bow season?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/04 at 06:20 PM

no firearms allowed of any kind while bowhunting in illinois.

Posted by trolloni on 10/04 at 08:13 PM

We had bears in N. IL. this spring mt. lions in the fall none how about a big foot this winter.Just glad the kids ok and hope his not fibbin his dad is a man of the cloth.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/05 at 08:07 AM

I seen bigfoot over the weekend , his breath smelled like carp !

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/05 at 09:22 AM

lets see now…. I’m a big mtn lion came from Missouri to get Ill deer or I could get farmer browns fenced in pigs,cows,chickens etc, no I think I’ll chase a wild deer all over the woods.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/05 at 10:23 AM

i don’t know whats up. but i will tell you that boy was not attacted by a lion. the truth will come out in the end, and if i’m wrong i will appoligize.his injuries look to much like they were self inflicted.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/05 at 12:56 PM

I am writing this comment in hopes that the Dies will read this and for the rest of us something to keep in mind if attacked by a wild animal: Jeremiah was taken to the emergency room out of fear of rabies, according to his mother, Pam Dice. He had no puncture wounds and was **(treated for scratches on his face and released.”)** I do not know if Jeremiah is being treated for rabies or not from this comment but rabies should not be looked over lightly. Scratches and salvia are enough to contract rabies; even small drops of saliva are capable of transmitting rabies, (this is one reason not to touch bats, they clean themselves with saliva.) The above description of the encounter has the earmarks of an animal with possible rabies. Attacking without a known cause. The reason I am personally concerned is because I once had to take shots because of a rabid fox, even though I had no puncher wounds.  Our dog did contract rabies from the tangle with the fox.
Concerned,
Takecare

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/05 at 04:07 PM

I have raised mountain lions personaly. The story is full of holes the biggest problem is no punture wounds, by his account the cat had his back which is typical and he states he put his hands over the back of his neck which would be a smart thing to do if you had the chance better to lose a couple fingers than a broken neck, yet for some reason the cat never bit him??....
I don’t care how big the boy is these animals evovled to take down large prey they are easily twice as strong as any man out there. To put it in perspective they are capable of snapping a persons neck with just the force of a paw swipe.
...
Something is fishy here

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/05 at 09:52 PM

Turns out this was a hoax. Jeremiah forgot to wear his safety harness and fell out of his stand. Afraid to tell his dad the truth he took his knife out and cut his jacket and hat and made up the whole story. This was announced sunday night

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/10 at 01:12 PM

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