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Illinois deer harvest up slightly

January 20, 2010 at 11:40 AM

SPRINGFIELD – Hunters in Illinois completed the 2009-2010 deer hunting seasons by taking a preliminary total of 189,277 deer during all seasons.  Deer hunting closed on Jan. 17 with the end of the 2009-2010 Archery, Late-Winter, and Special CWD deer hunting seasons.

“Illinois deer hunters taking to the field for the last three days of hunting last weekend enjoyed some excellent conditions,” said Illinois Department of Natural Resources Forest Wildlife Program Manager Paul Shelton.  “For mid-January weather, this was about as good as it gets – and a good way to close out another successful season.”

Hunters in Illinois took a preliminary total of 64,845 deer during the 2009-10 Archery Deer Season (Oct. 1, 2009-Jan. 17, 2010), compared with the archery deer harvest of 64,920 in 2008-09.

The combined preliminary harvest total of both the Late-Winter Antlerless-Only and the Special Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) deer seasons was 17,826, compared with a harvest of 12,552 deer taken during those seasons last year.  The Late-Winter and Special CWD seasons were expanded to a seven-day split season for 2009-10 (Dec. 31, 2009-Jan.3, 2010 and Jan. 15-17, 2010).  Hunters in Boone, DeKalb, McHenry, and Winnebago counties and Kane County west of Ill. Rt. 47 participated in the Special CWD season, while another 70 counties were open for the Late-Winter Antlerless-Only Deer Season.  The Special CWD season is used to assist in controlling the spread of chronic wasting disease in the Illinois deer herd, while the Late-Winter season provides additional harvest opportunities as a deer population management tool.

Hunters took a preliminary total of 99,493 deer during the 2009 Illinois Firearm Deer Season (Nov. 20-22 and Dec. 3-6), 4,704 deer during the 2009 Muzzleloader-Only Deer Season (Dec. 11-13), and 2,409 deer during the 2009 Illinois Youth Deer Season.

The total preliminary deer harvest for all seasons of 189,277 compares with a total harvest for all seasons of 188,901 in 2008-09.  In this year’s deer harvest, hunters took 50.5 percent does and 49.5 percent males. Illinois’ record deer harvest occurred in 2005-06, when 201,301 deer were taken.

Preliminary county harvest totals for all the 2009-10 Illinois deer seasons are detailed below, followed by a table of comparable figures for the 2008-09 seasons.


Here is a pdf that is easier to read with all totals.

2009-10_Illinois_Deer_Totals.pdf

Here are totals in a hard-to-read format. Sorry. The pdf above is much better for printing purposes.

Illinois Deer Harvest Summary for 2009-2010 Season


County   YouthGun MzldrLW Archery Total
Adams   81   2480 81 560 1411 4613
Alexandr 4 560 33 275 872
Bond 23 842 30 105 429 1429
Boone 8 155 7 47 169 386
Brown 34 1478 72 392 890 2866
Bureau 25 1285 97 444 895 2746
Calhoun 42 1385 91 366 1081 2965
Carroll 21 1027 56 233 636 1973
Cass 17 731 39 138 637 1562
Champaign 11 286 44 410 751
Christian 18 606 27 122 498 1271
Clark 29 1328 62 192 812 2423
Clay 36 1318 46 211 632 2243
Clinton 28 809 24 77 408 1346
Coles 12 703 16 90 636 1457
Cook 221 221
Crawford 24 1161 40 188 838 2251
Cumberland 13 889 26 110 402 1440
DeKalb 4 215 17 82 225 543
DeWitt 9 391 29 576 1005
Douglas 2 188 12 164 366
DuPage 70 70
Edgar 20 771 43 106 442 1382
Edwards 6 510 25 80 220 841
Effingham 34 1028 23 105 489 1679
Fayette 61 1909 60 329 815 3174
Ford 5 113 7 73 198
Franklin 31 1206 48 796 2081
Fulton 79 2616 124 709 1816 5344
Gallatin 14 644 42 388 1088
Greene 32 1385 57 285 765 2524
Grundy 9 398 23 132 432 994
Hamilton 27 1307 54 178 550 2116
Hancock 37 1953 109 466 808 3373
Hardin 26 1062 67 340 1495
Henderson 4 601 27 134 255 1021
Henry 12 698 56 193 547 1506
Iroquois 20 654 47 489 1210
Jackson 33 2154 82 748 3017
Jasper 35 1246 62 656 1999
Jefferson 81 2381 103 492 1555 4612
Jersey 26 938 34 174 589 1761
JoDaviess 50 2282 114 640 1061 4147
Johnson 31 1771 67 219 614 2702
Kane 1 55 3 29 410 498
Kankakee 4 207 14 345 570
Kendall 3 97 14 273 387
Knox 37 1431 85 409 1004 2966
Lake 10 487 497
LaSalle 30 1140 71 421 1291 2953
Lawrence 7 670 28 108 437 1250
Lee 18 668 47 514 1247
Livingston 8 483 30 333 854
Logan 4 395 19 112 266 796
Macon 11 318 32 580 941
Macoupin 47 1737 56 272 952 3064
Madison 26 941 33 135 1037 2172
Marion 68 1998 68 332 1154 3620
Marshall 23 761 35 145 396 1360
Mason 28 644 34 106 417 1229
Massac 11 657 41 332 1041
McDonough 22 1109 64 277 610 2082
McHenry 4 376 18 121 621 1140
McLean 20 673 49 193 585 1520
Menard 8 449 26 115 364 962
Mercer 12 871 50 180 410 1523
Monroe 20 1088 24 94 278 1504
Montgomery 27 1191 36 175 737 2166
Morgan 23 1093 39 169 641 1965
Moultrie 17 292 28 353 690
Ogle 21 1105 58 333 831 2348
Peoria 43 1514 68 432 1307 3364
Perry 31 1345 37 285 606 2304
Piatt 6 194 10 234 444
Pike 120 3266 221 945 3579 8131
Pope 7 1769 63 763 2602
Pulaski 7 726 36 279 1048
Putnam 9 563 37 174 363 1146
Randolph 77 2259 82 381 879 3678
Richland 18 879 22 130 427 1476
Rock Island 20 914 43 271 673 1921
Saline 25 965 56 179 501 1726
Sangamon 30 831 45 172 816 1894
Schuyler 36 1687 93 431 988 3235
Scott 10 560 27 92 245 934
Shelby 34 1443 53 210 749 2489
St. Clair 25 922 40 130 711 1828
Stark 9 306 22 64 153 554
Stephenson 17 935 37 262 527 1778
Tazewell 21 736 31 177 748 1713
Union 32 1761 79 309 768 2949
Vermilion 26 824 52 290 1160 2352
Wabash 6 310 11 38 222 587
Warren 3 612 29 128 298 1070
Washington 13 1172 37 405 1627
Wayne 42 1890 82 483 1007 3504
White 27 1043 61 278 656 2065
Whiteside 18 771 50 193 524 1556
Will 9 362 27 956 1354
Williamson 39 1626 50 753 2468
Winnebago 10 447 23 192 442 1114
Woodford 25 938 55 255 685 1958
Total 2409 99493 4704 17826 64845 189277

Illinois Deer Harvest Summary for 2008-2009 Season
2008 2008 2008 2008 2008 2008
County Youth Firearm Muzzleloader LW/CWD Archery Total
Adams 34 2651 70 352 1404 4511
Alexander 1 543 34 0 250 828
Bond 4 914 19 104 441 1482
Boone 3 160 10 30 126 329
Brown 28 1477 83 273 990 2851
Bureau 19 1623 79 219 842 2782
Calhoun 16 1343 66 240 1116 2781
Carroll 8 1131 51 116 613 1919
Cass 10 757 29 85 572 1453
Champaign 3 320 22 0 410 755
Christian 4 670 30 58 451 1213
Clark 15 1304 54 169 787 2329
Clay 11 1434 51 177 604 2277
Clinton 4 876 19 70 426 1395
Coles 5 749 24 55 626 1459
Cook 0 0 0 0 201 201
Crawford 8 1195 57 162 799 2221
Cumberland 6 921 24 80 385 1416
DeKalb 4 245 8 68 235 560
DeWitt 5 487 30 0 537 1059
Douglas 1 205 6 0 143 355
DuPage 0 0 0 0 78 78
Edgar 12 785 35 54 430 1316
Edwards 4 515 16 68 214 817
Effingham 10 1059 35 110 441 1655
Fayette 33 2115 70 292 830 3340
Ford 1 162 7 0 74 244
Franklin 8 1206 43 137 772 2166
Fulton 31 2699 93 428 1820 5071
Gallatin 3 624 49 0 306 982
Greene 7 1485 60 190 857 2599
Grundy 0 409 18 83 462 972
Hamilton 10 1347 45 172 614 2188
Hancock 24 2358 85 337 857 3661
Hardin 13 1107 55 0 419 1594
Henderson 7 676 22 58 229 992
Henry 7 894 39 96 542 1578
Iroquois 5 823 49 0 460 1337
Jackson 20 2209 64 235 888 3416
Jasper 17 1291 55 164 650 2177
Jefferson 41 2456 137 378 1459 4471
Jersey 13 1024 24 133 696 1890
JoDaviess 28 2373 113 342 864 3720
Johnson 19 1851 68 163 661 2762
Kane 1 63 5 12 402 483
Kankakee 1 242 12 0 324 579
Kendall 0 106 11 0 225 342
Knox 8 1623 66 229 1054 2980
Lake 0 9 0 0 444 453
LaSalle 11 1436 55 207 1171 2880
Lawrence 2 609 21 68 422 1122
Lee 10 700 21 91 476 1298
Livingston 5 597 24 0 313 939
Logan 3 459 21 35 278 796
Macon 8 341 37 0 548 934
Macoupin 26 1847 65 207 1026 3171
Madison 17 924 40 108 1067 2156
Marion 23 2037 103 266 1143 3572
Marshall 7 836 27 78 384 1332
Mason 8 683 52 0 423 1166
Massac 3 630 15 72 439 1159
McDonough 7 1155 38 128 617 1945
McHenry 3 374 20 88 585 1070
McLean 11 731 38 119 675 1574
Menard 2 431 24 62 370 889
Mercer 6 982 28 112 387 1515
Monroe 5 1104 25 80 312 1526
Montgomery 20 1231 32 130 712 2125
Morgan 7 1007 43 128 647 1832
Moultrie 2 339 32 0 304 677
Ogle 14 1184 46 143 730 2117
Peoria 23 1653 57 296 1324 3353
Perry 16 1386 37 238 642 2319
Piatt 2 206 7 0 226 441
Pike 55 3356 257 638 3754 8060
Pope 7 1841 48 0 943 2839
Pulaski 1 819 37 0 266 1123
Putnam 1 538 37 94 330 1000
Randolph 40 2494 72 309 941 3856
Richland 8 883 25 94 441 1451
Rock Island 8 985 38 157 602 1790
Saline 5 1036 44 107 533 1725
Sangamon 14 887 46 120 841 1908
Schuyler 16 1783 95 261 957 3112
Scott 5 578 20 90 260 953
Shelby 10 1436 71 134 746 2397
St. Clair 12 988 21 90 705 1816
Stark 5 361 17 44 153 580
Stephenson 7 1088 44 133 465 1737
Tazewell 10 765 20 116 780 1691
Union 7 1898 80 179 799 2963
Vermilion 11 967 50 135 1060 2223
Wabash 1 312 12 35 263 623
Warren 1 740 26 60 265 1092
Washington 3 1183 28 109 495 1818
Wayne 11 1989 81 343 957 3381
White 14 1041 69 228 697 2049
Whiteside 10 832 34 105 523 1504
Will 3 417 22 0 916 1358
Williamson 15 1794 44 154 825 2832
Winnebago 1 509 29 81 418 1038
Woodford 11 1100 49 141 734 2035
Totals 1045 106018 4366 12552 64920 188901

 

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I guess not everyone was having trouble seeing deer.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 12:17 PM

Ohhhhh no. The conspiracy theory of there being no deer in illinois has crashed and burned. If as many were killed this year than last, and this years hunting conditions were more difficult than normal, there must be MORE DEER than ever before!!! overpopulation!!! ahhhhhh!!!!!! deer are taking over illinois. big bucks everywhere!!!! RUN!!!!!!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 12:22 PM

Hardly crashed and burned. Count how many days you had to hunt last year and then add how many new days were added this year. Then add the combined seasons. It’s simple arithmatic even a paid trouble maker can understand.

Posted by deerhead on 01/20 at 12:30 PM

Antlerless harvest up over 100% in my county this year!!  I better start preparing myself now for a slow season and an empty freezer next year…

When will the DNR stop letting us decimate our deer herd!?!?  After seeing the anterless harvest stats NO ONE has the right to complain about the inevitably smaller herd & harvest next year!!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 01:23 PM

A record amount of tags, 4 more days of LWS, and 1 more day for Archery and we only shot 376 more deer. Don’t forget the 2008 – 2009 season was not a banner year either. I wouldn’t go celebrating just yet. If we subtract out the 9,000 or so deer that were shot during the new 4 day LWS then we would be behind last year’s total.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 01:43 PM

Don’t worry guys our IDNR is already implementing new ways to bring in even more hunters ( all non-residents of coarse), sell more permits & charge deerhunters more for our permits, for next season & beyond.
The IDNR’s 2 new add rules will allow out-of-staters to now kill 2 bucks with a bow and allow N/R youth to also buy the cheapest $10 youth deer permits, mean while raising IL residents gun tags to $25
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Funny how our IDNR has done nothing about our access issue ( as touted ) BUT… they sure have already figured out ways to charge us more to hunt less deer, bring in more n/r deerhunters, let n/r kill more deer, let n/r buy more tags, charge all hunter & fishermen more for the right to hunt.
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Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 01:50 PM

CONGRATS to the IDNR-“ILLINOIS DEPT. of NONRESIDENT REVENUE”!!  Glad you got your numbers to come out!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 01:51 PM

2005 2006 201,301 killed. Wonder how many would have been killed then with the longer season? So with this year deer count being a little higher to me doesn’t seem like it’s anything to brag about. But just keep selling those tags and one day we might be waiting for the pond to freeze so we can go ice fishin.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 02:24 PM

i am dead serious, some people on here need to do something else besides just look and whine about numbers, there is plenty of deer and always will be. untill you get 4-5 years of double digit declines then dont whine. if you take all the new hunters and new tags sold and the numbers still arent going down drastically then there is not a problem. i said it before and ill say it again. Buy your own land or shut the heck up cause you aint doing a darn thing to help the herd except whining on an internet forum that in the long run doesnt help a darn thing

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 02:32 PM

It’s funny, the DNR calls some of us in to “get our input” to help with access, etc., yet they used absolutely nothing from us. Then they wanted us to write about the opportunities in Illinois (and to support the DNR). The only opportunities I’m going to write about are the opportunities that I found out-of-state! I’ll be off to Kansas, Kentucky and maybe Ohio. I’m sick of watching Illinois deteriorate. They make me sick that they’re doing NOTHING for the youth of our state! They won’t quit until they’re voted out of office.
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At the ATA show last week, I heard so many people say” Oh, you’re from Illinois, that’s why you guys all kill big deer”. I would respond, “Are you kidding me?” You have to hunt your butt off to kill a big buck in Illinois! Too many NR’s, pressured deer, limited access for many, etc. Illinois is now the land of the raped”. Illinois deer herd is sold to the NR’s, ran by the insurance companies and nothing but a revenue generator for our beloved DNR.

Posted by Marc Anthony on 01/20 at 02:34 PM

to me id rather the government took there money and instead of buying land and hiring 5 new biologist, i wish they would spend it elsewhere cause no where else have i seen a less appreciative bunch of people that think things are owed to them. id rather they built a bunch of strip malls and housing to maybe give people more jobs or something cause no matter what dnr does people are going to whine whine whine about it like they are owed it and never be satisfied.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 02:35 PM

Think about it; CWD, Blue Tongue, and other dieses only cause damage in a herd when the numbers are too high, its Gods way of killing them because we aren’t!!!!! Like I have said many times before, only certain parts of Illinois have a “deer problem”! Illinois is all about making $$$$ they need to watch out, if they don’t address the problems now, they won’t have a deer herd to make any money off of!!!!! I am a volunteer with QDMA, getting involved has taught me so much! We have a branch right here in East Peoria, The Heart of Illinois Branch; contact me, if you want to get involved!! I am the president of the branch!! Email me .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) our goal is to educate people!! We put on seminars and field days!! But we need people to help and money!! Thanks and God bless!!

Foodplot Phil

Posted by food plot phil on 01/20 at 02:40 PM

IF YOU DONT LIKE ILLINOIS, THE BORDER IS THATAWAY——->

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 02:46 PM

johnh boy, You must work for the DNR or want to because they are looking for people like you. You wait and see what our herd is like in 5 to 7 years. They are killing too many deer, too many seasons, and at the wrong time. It is people like you that help our dnr make all the wrong moves. The hunter in ILLinois needs to take a good look at our deer herd and help by talking with others to help with deer management. You are the type to see 20 deer in a field and think we are overlaoded with them.Give it a few years and you will see what happens. And as far as the border is concerned YOU CAN HEAD THAT WAY

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 03:18 PM

Johnh it is narrow minded people like you that cannot see the big picture.  Myself or anyone else on this forum should not waiste any time replying to your post.  The facts in numbers speak for themselves.  As Tim has stated the dnr is now The Department of Revenue of Natural Resources that is being sold to the highest bidder.  Sure there are still plenty of deer out there to hunt, but it won’t be much longer at the rate we are going that it will be sucked dry.  The hunters in this state keep losing as the NRS keep gainging.  Why should we have to pay more to hunt when they keep issuing more permits thats what sucks!!  We don’t need a handout we just need are hands in BIGTIME on the management of whats left of are pimped out deer heard!!  And don’t worry if nothing changes maybe you can go hangout at the stripmalls you want built!!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 03:26 PM

“When will the DNR stop letting us decimate our deer herd!?!?”  Are you serious?  The DNR is LETTING you decimate the deer herd?  The DNR sells tags.  Us hunters buy them and fill them.  If too many deer got killed this year, it’s because hunters killed too many deer.  How many times do I have to say the same thing.  Don’t let the DNR use you as their killing tool!  You do not have to buy tags and you certainly do not have to kill deer.  Manage your own herd on the property you hunt.  If we run out of deer, it’s our own fault.  I’m a smoker and it’s not RJ Reynold’s fault that I buy their cigarettes.  It’s mine.  Good Lord.  Take some responsibility for yourselves.  Some of you sound exactly like Mayor Daley blaming Smith and Wesson for kids getting shot in Chicago.  Be glad the numbers aren’t worse.  With all the whining on this site, I honestly expected much lower numbers.  Sure we are killing too many deer and we all wish there were more deer.  Micro-managing your own deer herd could not be easier.  Shoot mature bucks and even some does, but leave some baby makers out there while remembering how many fawns die each year from non-hunting related things.  It’s the DNR’s fault, it’s the NR’s faults, it’s the outfitters’ faults, it’s the mean landowners’ faults, etc…Yet every year at the Deer Classic I see tons of hunters with 10-20 pins on thier hats from the previous season.  Sure, some areas need to have a crapload shot, but not every area.  If you don’t have enough deer, shot fewer for the next few years.  I promise, your deer numbers will go up.  Increasing deer numbers is as easy as decreasing them, but some guy in an office in Springfield can’t do either.  That’s up to us.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 03:38 PM

376 more deer killed this year than last year (0.2% increase) because of more aggressive efforts (more tags + more seasons). Even though there is no significant change in harvest from last year, I wonder how DVAs compare. Have they lowered? What about hunter success rate? Whether those statistics have lowered or not, expect the DNR to continue aggressively managing the state’s deer herd in this manner. It continues to bring in more money for the DNR and so far the trends have not spelled catastrophe. So far…
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I’d like to see the DNR’s Contingency Plan.  What? They don’t have one? LOL.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 03:39 PM

Just curious, Marc.  The property that you sold with all the out-of-state plates parked at the boders…was that near an outfitter?  I assume so.  I ask only because I have seen this for myself, though I do agree that we oversell NR tags.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 03:48 PM

I meant….“have NOT seen this.”

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 03:50 PM

i guarantee if there was half the amount of tags sold, no non residents allowed and the harvest doubled the same people on here would still complain.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 03:53 PM

I’m a landowner too johnh, bloodsuckers…not cool man.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 03:54 PM

hey im tired of seeing a guy with a 2000 dollar shotgun pulling up in a 500 dollar pickup to shoot a 25 dollar deer to take to his 300 dollar a month apartment. to me bust your butt working, buy your own land, shoot your own deer and then you have the right to complain. to the people who say ohhh i dont want to work more then 40 hours or are happy renting and using someone elses resources then they should not complain…period and like i said i dont see all these same people who are complaining about fees saying a darn thing bout the recent land purchases and hiring of biologist. its still lets bash dnr all day cause we cant hunt and are to lazy to work to get our own land

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 04:00 PM

I agree with buying your own land and I do believe that most people CAN afford it.  But facts are facts and not every hunter will be able to do so.  I still want them to have the right and a place to hunt.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 04:07 PM

another point i have and i seen someone say before. why are you still hunting and shooting deer if you believe the herds are being decimated?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 04:07 PM

treehugger, it was in Schuyler Co. waaaay before there was much outfitting going on. It was the perfect place in the middle of nowhere until the overabundance of NR’s came. In the beginning, I got to know some of them and they were great to hunt with. Towards the end, there were too many of them and the poaching began. No Game wardens to enforce the laws either. It was pitiful.

Posted by Marc Anthony on 01/20 at 04:08 PM

Quote johnh “you are blood sucking leeches if you dont have your own land. “

Jeff Lampe
I think most of your readers have had to put up with johnh for far to long. He has made 9 post in less then 2 hours & has been calling names & offending anyone he can to stir the pot.
This guy is making a sad joke of your site.
It needs to end.
8^(

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 04:10 PM

Guys, most people dont have the sense or desire to manage the herd.  Half the gun hunters dont even think of gun season until a week before it comes in.  And i also think there are clans that think killing lots of deer makes someone a good hunter.  The DNR uses these primates to work for the lobbyist.  And no the DNR will do nothing about them if they get on your line and trespass on you freely.  I called a warden, the sheriff and other land owner on one last week.  I got farthest with the other land owner who said ” ill just have those 5 trees that sit 2 feet off your line bulldozed next week”.  The warden and deputy were suppose to talk with him.  I havent heard from them since…

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 04:20 PM

If anybody thinks that poaching just started in schuyler/pike/adams/brown counties with in the past couple of years, pass me what you are smoking! I have friends hunting down there for years, you would go to the coffee shop or gas station and you have good old boys telling you where they shot 8-10 pointers and left them laying. I agree that there are problems with NR’s but to say poaching just started there is nuts. Is that why DNR has had planes flying over head since the mid 70’s early 80’s taking pictures of people shooting deer out of their vehicles at night??

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 04:23 PM

lynn, i think you speak for everyone on that and thats something we can all agree with…

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 04:23 PM

” why are you still hunting and shooting deer if you believe the herds are being decimated?”

Johnh (DNR Fanboy) - I am the one who said the state is “letting” us decimate our deer herd and I AM NOT still hunting and shooting deer as I feel herd on the property I hunt is in TERRIBLE condition.  HOWEVER, there are others who also have permission to hunt the same property and they didn’t stop hunting this year until they filled ALL of their tags; gun, muzzleloader, antlerless as well as some archery as their motto is “use ‘em if you got ‘em”!!  Then have the audacity to complain that they don’t see as many deer as they used to!! 

I have no right to tell them how many deer to harvest - that is the DNR’s job and a job that they are failing miserably at!! i.e. letting the greedy/irresponsible destroy the best deer hunting in the nation!!!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 04:27 PM

Land ownership has nothing to do with it. There are an equal number of comments coming from landowners as there are non-landowners. To each his own. Obviously there is a small sector on this website that does not share the same reality as everyone else.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 04:28 PM

Oops! Jeff L. must have removed my last post. That’s OK Jeff, just let johnh verbally destroy your site and we’ll keep quite.

Posted by Marc Anthony on 01/20 at 04:29 PM

For those of you that are not aware of it the Illinois Freedom of Information act has made it much easier to otain information from the government. IE the DNR would most likely be compeled to provide their fomula for the deer herd estimates. And other information that you are wanting to obtain such as at what level they are wanting to maintain the herd.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 04:30 PM

Lynn - I agree too.  And it’s too bad, because I see validity to some of johnh’s stances (even though he really gets under my skin), he just doesn’t articulate them and sometimes contradicts himself.  He also needs to respect the opinions of others (especially when they are backed by fact) and quit the pot-stirring. 

Murdy - I like your honest comment and I agree.  There’s been so many stats tossed around and with constant changes to the deer seasons, weather, crops, etc. from year-to-year,it’s really hard to make logical conclusions using the stats. I think I will agree with you and say that I just have no clue at this point.  We saw more deer and killed more deer on our farm over last year, but I’m wise enough to know that what happens on our 330 acres can not be considered what’s happening state-wide.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 04:30 PM

Hello Johnh
  I guess you didn’t read the volunteer part!! I volunteer to educate people on deer management!!!! If you want me to leave the state because I’m trying to help our state and deer herd..    then sorry johnh , I don’t know what you’re looking for?! best of luck

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Posted by food plot phil on 01/20 at 04:31 PM

Marc,

Are you the same Marc Anthony on the B&C website with a 182” buck from Kentucky?  How can you honestly bash NR hunters coming to Illinois when you obviously enjoy visiting other states to hunt their deer?  Not trying to pick a fight but that seems a bit like a double standard.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 04:33 PM

Dakota, notice where I say “TOO many Nr’s”! I’m all for Nr,r not 25,000 of them! Actually, I said “overabundance”.

Posted by Marc Anthony on 01/20 at 04:35 PM

I have no stats on this at all, but I’d bet that most IL hunters have rights on someone else’s land.  In my opinion, and I’ll probably get jumped on for this one, landowners care much more about their herd.  Once I bought my own land, I felt differently about conservation…different in a better way.  I think the people we need to convince to kill fewer deer are the “hunting rights” people.  I have had many bad hunting rights neighbors since I’ve been a landowner.  The ones I know shoot everything that walks, then they tell me that I shoot too many.  They shoot 12, find 3.  These are the people I talk about/to when I say that we need to control ourselves better.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 04:39 PM

Dakota, I know you’re not trying to pick a fight, I just want to clear that up. The overabundance of NR’s create too many problems for us, especially when we can’t enforce the laws here. Most of them now know that and take advantage of the situation. I once had a .270 pointed at me from one of them. Itwasn’t a pretty sight. We all need the opportunity to travel and hunt other staets, no doubt about it!

Posted by Marc Anthony on 01/20 at 04:40 PM

Rabbit, I believe you DO have the right to tell someone they are shooting too many deer…maybe even the responsibility to do so as a hunter who gives a damn.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 04:51 PM

i havent personally attacked anyone on this site lynn,marc and the others who say im making a joke of this site. its funny that im a pot stirrer, trouble maker, malcontent just because my views differ then yours and make a heck of alot more sense. you guys time after time contradict yourselves about the deer herd… you state its being decimated but yet you still hunt and usually kill the max allowed deer if you can find them. you contradict yourselves buy bashing non residents but then advertise you will go hunt in other states. if you look at any public resource in america or elswhere it is never as good as private and you guys should stop expecting it to be. public school wont ever be as good as private same with hunting, if your hunting public lands then you have ZERO room to complain about how the herd is being handled. If you own your own land then you only have yourself to blame if your mismanaging your herd by leasing out the land or over harvesting. people need to stop using DNR as an excuse or blaming them for everything cause no matter what anyone says at this moment illinois is still one of the best states in the world for deer even so the same person has been in charge of the herd for 20 years. dnr makes rules and guidelines, you as hunters are the ones that choose what and how many to harvest.. it is legal for me to eat 3 gallons of
ice cream but does it mean everytime i eat ice cream i should eat the maximum allowed, its just greed if you are keeping the max amount of deer and then have the gall to complain about the herd

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 04:52 PM

Marc, there are lots of posts being deleted. Deer numbers are always a hot issue. Shame that people have to get personal.

But let me make one thing very clear: I do not want to ban johnh or anyone else. That doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Anything is possible.

I just wish people could state opinions without calling names and trying to bait others.

Posted by Jeff Lampe on 01/20 at 04:56 PM

Johnh, I think you have some real good ideas but I think you got a bit too pissy about it all.  I would say that Jeff should not remove you.  This is a place for ideas to spread.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 05:00 PM

i agree deer numbers are a hot topic but its amazing that people can complain about the numbers time and time again yet still hunt, it makes zero sense to me. if my money is running low i dont go out and shop so why should someone go out and hunt if they think we are running out of deer. seriously.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 05:01 PM

well treehugger i tend to get a lil pissy as you say when i state my opinion and have the same people call me names or out of name or say i should be banned cause i dont agree with them. i sat here for months and tried to see there points of view but all i see is people bashing Dnr and not willing to take any responsibility on themselves or want things handed to them on a silver spoon. bout 50 percent of the posts i see from people on here are all about hipocrisy and greed.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 05:05 PM

I totally agree that the responsibility is on us hunters and not the DNR.  I have been stating that for months.  I was the guy that said I will not let the DNR tell me what to do.  When they want more deer shot, they shouldn’t count on my help.  For about the 10th time, stop letting the DNR use you as thier tool.  I do believe though that the more people rip on those who shoot too many deer, it will eventually have a positive effect.  Stop letting them play the “hero” role for killing a crapload of deer.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 05:12 PM

John, i will agree with that.  There are lots of people complaining about deer numbers that still went out and faught though the poor season attempting to kill antlerless deer.  I for one practice what i preach and have never shot a doe.  Let many antlerless deer walk.  Ive seen this coming for years.  Three years ago we shot 6 bucks with bows ranging from 140 gross to 190 gross.  This year, two 135s and we hunted much harder.  Let another 150ish gross 8 walk because he was in the area of a 200 net typical i was seeing. We had him at 70 yards more times than we can count then vanished:( But just seeing him made my season

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 05:13 PM

One thing undisputable is this: Allowing N/R’s two E/S bow tags, and N/R- E/S gun tags for the youth season, will have a negative effect on resident access, and on balancing the buck/Doe sex structure of the IL. deer herd. There is no denying it.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 05:17 PM

clint one of the few times i respect what your saying, cause usually your the cheerleader for blaming things on the Dnr but one thing in the statement bothers me a lil and just asking for clarification. you say you shot 6 bucks 3 years ago between 140 and 190. how many acres and how many people. if less then 6 people do you think that maybe just shooting 1 apeice would have given you a better shot at better deer this year?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 05:19 PM

walmsley the tags have no effect on resident access. the only thing the tags have an effect on is how many deer are harvested. but actually in the long run it benefits the access because with the funds from the tags they buy more land like they did just last week or hire more biologist

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 05:23 PM

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