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Hunting seasons drawing to an end

January 14, 2010 at 06:43 PM
Late-winter details Here's a list of counties open to the late-winter, antlerless-only hunt and a list of state sites that will be open to the hunt. LW_counties.pdf LW_Sites_open.pdf LW_Info_sheet.pdf LW_counties_map.pdf

These are bittersweet days for many hunters. After this weekend, only a few species will be fair game in Illinois.

Pheasant and quail seasons end Friday in the South Zone, though rabbit season will remain open in that zone through Jan. 22.

Even the nearly four-month long deer season ends Sunday, as archery and the second segment of the late-winter firearm hunts both conclude.

Warmer weather this weekend should give more hunters a chance to get out and bag one last doe, should they choose. Permits are available over the counter for some Illinois counties. Unfilled firearm permits can also be used, provided the county for which they were issued is open to hunting.

Through Monday, archery hunters had shot 62,801 deer compared to last year’s total of 63,620 at the same time. Of those, 50.3 percent were does. Top counties are Pike 3,472, Fulton 1,766, Jefferson 1,471, Adams 1,379 and Peoria 1,274. Archery hunters are reminded that they can hunt this weekend if they wear blaze orange. But archery hunters are not allowed to carry a firearm.

Beyond that, hunting is legal for Canada geese (through Jan. 31 in the Central and South zones), fox (through Jan. 31), squirrel (through Feb. 15), crow (through Feb. 28), raccoon (through Feb. 10 in the North Zone, Feb. 15 in the South), woodchuck, coyote and skunk.

Looks like it will be time to get out the crow decoys or the predator calls.

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Seems like a silly question, but can firearm hunters carry a bow?  You never know with this state.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/15 at 08:24 AM

No. Bowhunters are not allowed to carry a firearm.

Posted by Jeff Lampe on 01/15 at 09:47 AM

I think he is asking if firearm hunters could carry a bow, not the other way around. I am assuming he means can you use a bow during the firearm season, and I assume you could provide you have a firearm tag. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it was illegal.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/15 at 10:00 AM

If you are going to hunt with a bow tag, you need to have only a bow with you. If you are going to hunt with a muzzleloader tag, you need to have a muzzleloader. For a shotgun tag you can use a shotgun, muzzleloader or handgun. I’m not sure if a bow would be legal. I’m also not sure why you would want to carry one, unless you had no more bow tags.

Posted by Jeff Lampe on 01/15 at 10:05 AM

Jeff, my question is if you have both a bow and fire arms tag can you carry both weapons?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/15 at 11:55 AM

A friend said that the DNR told him that it was ok to have both gun and bow provided you have proper permits. Also antlered bucks are still legal with bows. It would have been nice for some clarification from the DNR on their web site!!! Could be a busy weekend for wardens and profitable for the state!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/15 at 12:55 PM

No. I spoke with a CPO about this. If you are bowhunting, you must have a bow only. You are not allowed to carry a firearm while bowhunting, even if you have other tags. That is very clear, unfortunately, in the Hunting Digest.

Sorry.

Posted by Jeff Lampe on 01/15 at 01:35 PM

good to know..

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/15 at 05:56 PM

I shot my 3rd doe of the season today. 2 with my bow, and today 1 with my shotgun, all this with standing corn only a quarter mile away! Who would have guessed?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/15 at 11:23 PM

guys, it’s very clear- page 14- 2009-2010 regs.

“Note: It is unlawful to have ANY firearm in possession while hunting deer with a bow and arrow or crossbow”.

That’s a quote!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/16 at 10:33 AM

So let me get this straight. Say I have a valid first season firearm tag. I am wearing the required blaze orange. I cannot legally have a bow and gun on me? I could not harvest a deer within range with a bow legally, with my gun hanging on a hook, or vice versa, providing I have a proper tag?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/16 at 10:48 AM

reddog, that’s correct.  If you are hunting with a bow or crossbow on an archery tag regardless of what season it is (even late-season)... you cannot have any kind of firearm in your possession.
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I can understand some CPO’s having some different views on some gray areas of some obscure hunting regulation that was written decades ago (like the coyote treestand legislation).  But I can’t believe a CPO (or someone at DNR who’s answering legal questions) wouldn’t know something that’s specifically spelled out in the Digest.

Posted by KC-IBS on 01/16 at 11:28 AM

whats the coyote treestand legislation?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/16 at 11:55 AM

We really dont have people that think its legal to take a gun bowhunting and use the honor system on what they actually shot it with do we?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/16 at 12:50 PM

CAMOMAN, until this hunting season it was illegal to shoot a coyote from a treestand.  It was an obscure law written years ago to keep people from climbing trees and shooting furbearers (coons).  Some CPO’s enforced it, some didn’t. Some thought it only applied to climbing treestands.  DNR in Springfield didn’t even know for sure if it was being enforced So the law was changed to make it clearly legal to shoot coyotes from treestands.

Posted by KC-IBS on 01/16 at 01:41 PM

Ya, way to go Kevin- That was one more Charge levied against my tresspass’r- and you did away with it!!!

HeeHee!-

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/16 at 02:42 PM

Why is it a stretch to think it’s ok to carry both with legitimate tags for both relying on one’s honor?  Our entire reporting system is honors based.  The original question was really more a matter of semantics than anything else.  You can’t carry a firearm while bow hunting, but if you are firearm hunting can you carry a bow?  It was meant to be a legitimate question, because the regulation is not explicitly worded both ways.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/16 at 07:53 PM

“You can’t carry a firearm while bow hunting, but if you are firearm hunting can you carry a bow?”
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swivel… if you have a bow in the field with you (with a deer permit)... you’re bowhunting.  It doesn’t have to be worded “both ways.”  Why else would you take a bow with you to the woods (this weekend) if not to bowhunt deer?  Never mind the way the law is worded… who the heck wants to have all that crap with them in a tree stand????

Posted by KC-IBS on 01/16 at 08:51 PM

why would someone ever think its ok to pack a shotgun in with them if they are bowhunting? Is there any other time of the year when they would let you do that?  Why would they do it now? I personally hate this season because of the confusion.  I had to get someone to contact a warden to even see if bucks were legal with a bow.  How many illegally taken bucks will be harvested this year?  I talked to some people who thought you could shoot bucks during the first late season gun hunt.  Its a joke and the dnr has made it that way intentially.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/17 at 12:35 AM

The original intent was to keep bowhunters from carring firearms during the archery season. This was inacted before we had the mixed season to keep bowhunters honest. We are allowed to carry as many legal firearms as we want during the gun season. Why should it be wrong to carry a bow during the mixed season? Having several loaded guns with you also makes the plugged gun law senseless! I can have six shots in my revolver but only three in my shotgun? Another law that needs to go away.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/17 at 10:38 AM

this is why all dnr officials are schumks!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/17 at 02:46 PM

schmucks!!! my bad

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/17 at 02:53 PM

Can you shoot a white coyote we have had one coming by all season while hunting deer and was wondering if you can shoot them.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/17 at 07:56 PM

thats the neighbors dog snowball

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/17 at 08:05 PM

They do not have a dog this coyote is very perry solid white.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/17 at 08:08 PM

Look, you guys are not understanding me. I had wanted to do this last year after tagging 2 bucks prior to the gun season but could not get a straight answer. I was not saying to carry a gun during archery season. Here is the scenario, try to follow me as it seems no one can, including the DNR, once they here bow and gun all hell goes out the window.

1st firearm season, I have valid tag of either sex and antlerless only for hypothetical Jackson county. Can I legally shoot a deer (legal deer) with a bow, and tag it with my firearm tag? Once again I’m not talking about carrying along a shotgun before the gun season. And if it is legal to use a bow during firearm season, can you have a gun in the tree with you as well?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/17 at 10:19 PM

Bobby:  Under no circumstances do you want to shoot any albino (pure white) animal in Illinois.  I know that white deer (and Piebald) and White Squirrels (Olney) are protected.  I believe that all albinos are protected in other species as well.  An all white coyote or fox mount would be beautiful though. Campbell’s Outdoors, a big outfitter over by Carmi in White County has a whole herd of all white deer, as does the Batavia National Laboratory up by Chicago.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/17 at 10:49 PM

The firearm info sheet doesn’t list a bow as a legal method for firearm season. 

You cannot not have a gun with you if you are in the field with while bow hunting.  Further, if you do bow hunt in a county with firearm season in session, you must wear orange.  That’s the way I read it.

If you want to hunt both methods on the same day,  it seems you need to make a trip back to the truck to change methods.  I would not carry the other permit just to not make anyone think otherwise.

the question/answer is moot, seasons are over.  enjoy our harvest(s) or tag soup…i have some of both.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/17 at 10:58 PM

No, you cannot use a bow during firearm season. The rest is moot.  Just keep in mind… regardless of what hypothetical situation you come up with… if you’re in a stand with your bow… you are bowhunting, and you can’t have a gun with you.
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BigD, piebald deer are NOT protected in IL.  Only albinos and all-white deer.  There may be other albino particular species in some areas that are protected, but I don’t think there’s a blanket law that protects all albino species that fall under tha wildlife code.  The statute that covers whitetail deer required separate wording specifically for deer.

Posted by KC-IBS on 01/18 at 10:31 AM

thanks for the info KC….I must have got some bad info on the piebald deer from a CPO.  There is a small herd of these deer in Southern Illinois and they are striking.  I never hunted them because I always thought that they were off-limits.  May have to reconsider next year.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/18 at 09:39 PM

“We are allowed to carry as many legal firearms as we want during the gun season. Why should it be wrong to carry a bow during the mixed season? Having several loaded guns with you also makes the plugged gun law senseless! I can have six shots in my revolver but only three in my shotgun? Another law that needs to go away.”
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I agree eldon.  Another twist to this… I can load my muzzleloader and get ammo for shotguns that will shoot as good or outshoot most 30-30s, 32 Specials, and any 35 Remington out there… all while using bigger bullets.  Why couldn’t these be legal firearms (with certain restrictions)?  Also, why wouldn’t a 44 mag lever action be legal?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/19 at 11:59 AM

I cant fathom so many people not knowing the laws. I thought that was part of being a hunter?  Why does anybody want to carry a firearm when bow hunting dosent make any since.  If your a bow hunter you dont need a firearm to take a deer come on. Plus there is to many idiots out there that would shoot the deer and lie say they shot it with a bow! No confusion its wrote in the digest and clear read it!!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/20 at 02:24 PM

Having a sidearm with a bow may be prudent in other states that have predators that can eat you.  But here in IL, that is not the case.  Yet.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/21 at 06:46 AM

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