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Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn delivers his State of the Budget Address to a joint session of the General Assembly on the House floor at the Illinois State Capitol in Springfield, Ill., Wednesday, March 18, 2009. (AP Photo/Seth Perlman)

Illinois DNR budget includes new fees

March 25, 2009 at 01:36 PM

Many hunters, anglers and outdoor users have said they would pay more for a well-run Department of Natural Resources. The DNR’s 2010 budget proposal offers numerous chances to back up that claim.

The DNR unveiled a budget on Wednesday that includes proposals for 10 new or increased fees. Notable among those proposals is a state park parking fee and $7 increases for hunting and fishing licenses.

“When (Gov. Pat Quinn) announced the reopening of the state parks he said that day we will rebuild the DNR and bring it back,” said Marc Miller, DNR director. “So much has been done to this agency that we’ve got to find creative ways to get programs back up and fully functioning.

“This will generate money into dedicated funds we will be using to accomplish very important aspects of our mission.”

Miller said increases are needed even though Quinn upped DNR’s share of the state General Revenue Fund to $62 million for 2010. That’s up from $50 million last year and would boost the overall DNR budget to $276.4 million for 2010.

That includes funding for the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency, which Quinn plans to merge into DNR. At present Miller said there is no money to reopen closed historic sites.

Miller does have plans to replace DNR staff laid off in recent years, specifically citing wild turkey and upland game biologists as examples. “We also need technicians at fish hatcheries, we need front-line biologists, there’s going to be a number of positions we need,” Miller said.

To pay for those hirings and for other DNR programs that have suffered in recent years, proposals include:

• Establish a state park parking fee under which visitors can pay $5 per day or purchase an annual pass costing $25 for residents and $35 for non-residents. “Forty-two other states have admission fees and many of our Midwestern states do this as well,” Miller said. “This is not a brand-new idea but it is something that would support people’s experiences in the parks.”

• Increase all resident and non-resident hunting and fishing license fees by $7. A resident fishing license would go from $12.50 to $19.50 and a resident hunting license would bump up from $7 to $14.

• Establish an Equestrian Use fee of $5 per day or $25 per year.

• Increase cost of resident deer permits from $15 to $25 — the first change in approximately 25 years.

• Increase cost of the Illinois State Migratory Waterfowl Stamp from $10 to $15.

• Charge $2 per swimmer at Illinois Beach State Park.

• Charge a $3 boat launch fee for state ramps at Lake Shelbyville, Rend Lake and Carlyle Lake.

• Charge license buyers the $1.09 administration fee for online permits and licenses. Currently the DNR pays this fee.

Miller said several proposals would not be in place until next year since they require legislative action or administrative rule changes.

“We’re asking for these fee increases now, but we may not see the full effect of this until the next fiscal year,” Miller said. “The most important thing right now is to rebuild this agency.”

Here is a more in-depth look at the proposed changes.

State Park Parking Fee (New)

This proposal would charge all visitors (in and out-of-state) a $5.00 daily parking fee.  An annual parking pass would also be available for $25.00 for in-state residents and $35.00 for out-of-state residents. This fee will allow the agency to hire additional staff at state parks, natural areas, wildlife areas and other sites as funds become available. Would require administrative rule change.

State beach User Fee (increase)

This proposal would charge a $2 per swimmer, per day, fee for Adeline Jay Geo-karis Illinois Beach State Park (IBSP). Currently IBSP does not charge to use the beach as many other state beach sites do.  Revenue from this fee will be used for maintenance and beach nourishment (Sand replacement) activities.  Would require administrative rule change.

Migratory Waterfowl Fee (Increase)

Increase the cost of the State Migratory Waterfowl Stamp from $10 to $15. The increase will be used specifically to improve and maintain state waterfowl areas. Currently revenue generated from Migratory Waterfowl Stamp fees do not adequately support Waterfowl operations. Requires Legislative action.

Equestrian Trail Use Fee (New)

This proposal would establish an equestrian use fee for individuals to bring horses or other equine onto department-managed properties. Equestrians using their own horses would have the option of purchasing a $5.00 day pass or a $25.00 annual pass. Equestrians currently pay no fees to use department trails.  Equestrian trails, days use areas and campgrounds require an extraordinary amount of maintenance. Revenue generated from this fee will support added staff and maintenance of equestrian trails throughout the state. Requires an administrative rule change.

Deer Hunting Permit Fee (Increase)

Increase Resident Deer Hunting Permit Fee’s from $15 to $25. The fee was last increased approximately 25 years ago.This fee would support an increase in Wildlife management staff.  Would require legislative action and an administrative rule change.

Hunting, Fishing & Sportsman (Combo) License Fee (Increase)

This proposal would increase all resident hunting and fishing licenses by $7.00.

Resident fishing licenses would increase from $12.50 to $19.50.

A Non-resident 10-day fishing license would increase from $13 to $20 and a non-resident annual fishing license would increase from 24.50 to $31.50.

The Fishing license fees were last increased over 10 years ago.  Fishing License sales support fish and aquatic management throughout Illinois.

Resident hunting license fees would increase from $7.00 to $14.00.  Non Resident annual hunting licenses would increase from $50 to $57. Non-resident 10-day hunting licenses would increase from $28-$35. Resident hunting licenses were last raised in 1974. Revenue generated from this fee increase will fund an increase in wildlife program staff as funds become available.

Sportsman or Combo licenses would increase from $18.50 to $25.00.  (Only Illinois residents are eligible for a Sportsman license)

Would require Legislative action and an administrative rule change.

Environmental Consultation Fees (New)

Currently local units of government and private entities are required, by statue, to complete an environmental consultation review with the agency.This proposal would charge a fee of $500.00 to local governments or private entities seeking this consultation. 

This fee will help cover the cost of performing these reviews-including supporting staff and the automated EcoCAT web based system that allows users to get results substantially faster. After getting the review results, cities sometimes charge developers for this information that they currently receive from free from the IDNR.

Requires legislative action.

Office of Water Resources Permit Fees (New)

Create a series of regulatory fees for DNR’s Office of Water Resources ranging from $400 to $5,000 specifically for OWR permits and Lake Michigan water allocations. The proposal also creates an annual fee (TBD) for the use of the Chain O’Lakes, to be collected from boaters. These fees will fund permit and water allocation services, flood control and dam safety programs and operation of the Stratton Lock and Dam. Requires legislative action.

Public Boat Launch Use Fee (New)

This fee proposal recommends a $3 launch fee per boat, per day, for Lake Shelbyville, Rend Lake, and Carlyle Lake. An annual pass will also be developed. This launching fee is currently inline with what the Army Corps of Engineers charges to launch at its boat ramps on these reservoirs. State ramps at these lakes get extraordinarily heavy use because they remain free of charge. The same fee structure would also apply at North Point Marina on Lake Michigan for trailered boats. Requires Administrative rule change.

Point of Sale convenience charge (New)

By contract Active Network currently charges IDNR $1.09 per license sale through the point of sale system to administer the system. Currently IDNR pays Active Network this fee from the Fish & Wildlife fund. By license buyers absorbing this fee it will strengthen the Fish and Wildlife fund to better serve the agency’s core mission. Requires an Administrative Rule change.

 

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Thank God all these fees will stay with the DNR right?
What a joke. Can we get Blago back? Quinn signed his death warrant for re-election and just opened to door to Lisa Madigan. And how will combining the IL DNR with the historical society impact the DNR? I think I am going to vomit.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 02:11 PM

How about we place a useage fee on the bicyclists that ride the trails in the state parks. For that matter, a license to ride on public roadways!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 02:35 PM

I SURE HOPE THEY DON’T FORGET TO RAISE THE OUTFITTERS LICENSE ONLY $500 PER YEAR NO MATTER HOW MUCH GROUND THEY LEASE, ALSO HOPE THE PERMIT FEES GO WAY UP FOR OUT OF STATERS ALSO. ARE THEY GOING TO PUT UP $5 PARKING METERS UP AT THE PARKS? HEY, HOW ABOUT CHARGING THE OUT OF STATERS MORE SO WE CAN PARK FOR FREE AT THE PARKS THAT OUR TAXES PAID FOR

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 03:05 PM

I must say as much as I don’t want to have to shell out more money for these things I really don’t have much problem with this. I seem to remember a few months ago a certain governor closing a few state parks. Fast forward a to a few weeks ago when our current governor reopened all of the closed parks and in order to keep them open we are going to have to pay a few extra bucks to maintain these places. As we dig ourselves out of the current financial hole we are in, perhaps we need to ask our leaders to be more responsible with the money that we “give” them in the form of taxes and not piss it all away so we have to go through this again in the future.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 03:46 PM

I’m shocked that they didn’t have a fee for mushroom hunting. But wait maybe theres fine print.This might be the way they get gun control with all the taxes, fees and stamps we won’t have enough money to buy shells or even lead sinkers thats another story.It would never happen but if us sportmen would get together and not hunt or fish for one year you could bet the farm that we would have awhole new out look in Springfield. It don’t look good for my grand kids!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 03:50 PM

We really can’t be too surprised by all of this. We should have known that fee hikes were on the way, along with a myriad of other taxes at the state level. There’s really no other way to pull ourselves out of this state-wide financial mess. Sure, we’d like to see the fee hikes targeted towards other areas that have as little direct impact on us as possible (NR, outfitters, bicyclists, etc). Those are likely on the way too. What we should be equally concerned about is if we really have moved into a new era of government accountability and responsibility. I noticed that a lot of generated funds mentioned above would go towards support staff. Does this mean that the DNR is finally going to emerge from its hiring freeze anytime soon? Doubtful.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 04:09 PM

I think we all saw this coming, and I agree the out-of-state hunters should bear the bigger burden. 

I bought my lifetime hunting license this year for myself and my 5 year old son.  Just wish I had had the $$ to pick one up for my 2 year old daughter. 

I strongly suggest others consider it - these hikes seem modest compared to the severity of the situation.  I see more coming now that the ball is rolling.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 04:26 PM

I dont know about the rest of you, but giving out another 25-30 dollars a year isnt going to keep me out of the woods or off the water.  Instead of knocking our new governor we should be applauding him for focusing on our concerns.  We cant ask him to keep all parks open and hire more DNR staff without making a few changes to get this done.

Yes maybe we are putting a bit more money out there to do things that we love to do, but this money will help ensure that we have these locations to hunt and fish in the future.  For those of you saying that you are putting too much out for fees and stamps that you cant even buy ammo that is a complete crock, dont act like its that big of a deal.

Our state is in horrible economic condition right now and we arent going to get through this by doing more of the same (and no i didnt vote Obama), so I dont mind giving a few extra dollars to help out our DNR and state parks.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 04:35 PM

Throwing money at problems never solves anything..Just look what’s happening NOW!

Hasn’t this been proven over and over..yet no one seems to get it???

All you that have no problem with these addn’l fees and new fees..why not just give ALL your money to the goverment! I think all of you would really feel much better…...

PS you can pay my fees too if it helps….

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 05:05 PM

You seem to be full of BS there if it wasn’t for having some fees for these things we would not have these locations to enjoy. My main focus is fishing and if it wasn’t for the money raised by fishing licences there would be no fish in state owned lakes because well let’s face it nothing is free. We need more accountability in our government and time will tell if that actually happens. I definitely agree with the notion of raising out of state licences. I have done a little looking around and Illinois is one of the cheaper states for out of state licences, ex. Iowa is $40 for an out of state fishing license.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 05:27 PM

SCREWED AGAIN…thank’s for nothing…

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 05:45 PM

Are you aware that 42 other states charge a parking fee in their State Parks?

Let’s go back to Blagoville?? Are you kidding me?
Would you like to see more public facilities closed and the IDNR enforcement division morphed into the State Police?
That’s where Blago was headed, come hell or high water.

2 weeks into Governor Quinn’s administration, we learned that parks would be opened and USF&WS;funds would be reinstated.

Did you really think that our hatcheries, fisheries biologists and retainment of quality IDNR staff would come by waving a magic wand?

Illinois is merely catching up with the Joneses, and it’s about time we experience quality management after years of neglect and dismantlement.

As for bicyclists, I can only vouch for what I’ve seen at the Kankakee River State Park, but every group I’ve witnessed parks in one of the lots and unloads their gear from there.
Same goes for anyone that chooses to photograph wildlife or go for a leisurely stroll on the paths.

My one caveat to any legislation since becoming an outdoorsman was that everybody pays for what we all enjoy.
This proposal reaches out to all aspects of enjoyment.

It sickens me to no end to see anybody claiming that their $13.50 fishing license brings entitlements beyond what is logistically possible to provide.

Posted by Mike Clifford on 03/18 at 05:52 PM

Uh Mr Clifford don’t we already pay ENOUGH TAXES????

Ever heard of the Pittman-Robertson Act???

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 06:01 PM

Those taxes are not enough to bring the decimated state of the IDNR back on par with what we used to have, let alone what we would like to see it become.
For the uninitiated, the damage done over the last several years was significant.
Rumblings from those in the know stated that it would take the better part of a decade to repair, no matter what proposals or legislation was proposed by subsequent administrations.
I’d like to believe those statements were made in a state of desperation, and that we can in fact experience some victories among the ashes.

If you have something significant to share on how the P-R Act is designed to overcome what were forced to endure in the previous administration, I’d be interested in hearing details.

Posted by Mike Clifford on 03/18 at 06:18 PM

FOR THOSE OF YOU SQUALLING ABOUT THE FEES. WHAT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED DOES NOT EVEN COVER INFLATION SINCE THE LAST INCREASES.
AS FOR DEER PERMITS - I THINK THAT WAS 72 OR 74 WHEN THEY WENT TO THE CURRENT $15.00. WHAT SHOULD THEY COST NOW IF THEY WERE $15 THEN? HOW MUCH DID THE GAME WARDENS GAS COST THEN OR AN OIL CHANGE? FOR THAT MATTER WHAT DID HIS VEHICLE COST? HOW MUCH SALARY DID A BIOLOGIST EARN A YEAR?

OUR MAJOR PROBLEM - WE’VE HAD IT TOO GOOD FOR TOO LONG. NOW IT’S TIME TO PAY A LITTLE MORE TO PLAY.

TAKE YOUR WIFE OR KID TO THE MOVIE OR JUST GO BY YOURSELF. AFTER YOU GET BACK LOOK AT THESE FEES AGAIN - THE FEES COVER AN ENTIRE YEAR OR AN ENTIRE SEASON - NOT TWO HOURS.

AS FAR AS I’M CONCERNED THE DIRECTOR DIDN’T GO FAR ENOUGH.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 06:28 PM

Brad- you nailed it straight on.

People need to wake up, do the research and only then come back with an INFORMED argument on the issue.
Bitching and moaning is the easy way to debate.
Bring the stats, and we’ll discuss it intelligently.

Posted by Mike Clifford on 03/18 at 06:37 PM

First of all if the funds were going to where they were supposed to instead of entitlements and voter pandering we would not be in this position. Hum.. wonder what party was in charge of that???

We did finally recieve 9.25 Million from the P/R Act this year. No they are not designed to bail out a state from mis-management…

You do agree the taxes and funds from sportsmen have been mis-managed right???

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 06:39 PM

Everyone knows how bad the economic issues are here in IL. I’m not opposed to some gradual increases to help keep state parks open and keep ILDNR jobs. However, I think this is too much at one time. We’re already likely to see increased state income taxes. Since I deer hunt in a state forest I’ll need the 25.00 parking permit. I’ll also need the higher dollar hunting license and deer permit.

Currently I pay just over 20 dollars for the license and permit (no parking). With this plan my cost would go up 100% in one year! If anyone thinks a 100% increase is not excessive in an economy that is the worst it has been in decades then that logic escapes me.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 07:26 PM

Folks wake up!!!! Nothing GOOD in life is free. If you enjoy the outdoors (fishing, hunting, boating, hiking, photography, horseback riding and yes even hunting for mushrooms)then you will pay the price. As a woman that hunts, goes fishing, take pictures of the wildlife in the outdoors, walks the trails and boats I will pay the increases. If you think the increases are to much then maybe you should take a look at what the outdoors means to you and think about just how much you will miss being there!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 07:49 PM

I really dont like having to pay more but I do however understand the reasoning behind the increases. A few things I want to see happen…
1.) Out of staters pay more.
2.) Outfitters pay more.
3.) Everyone that uses the parks pay, not just sportsman having to flip the bill.
4.) Every cent put taken put back into the DNR.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 07:51 PM

I have no problem with increasing fees. You get what you pay for, and it seems pretty clear that IDNR fees are out of date. When you cut deep you always end up cutting through the fat and into the meat, well, it’s time to put some meat back into the agency. In the next year I’d like to see serious staffing and funding increases in for the IDNR biologists and foresters on the front line - turkey, upland game, and especially HABITAT!!!!!

Posted by Henry Holt on 03/18 at 08:48 PM

100% increase on $20 is not that big of a deal if you look at the big picture.  Think of the number of times you go out hunting and fishing per year compared to the cost.  Do you really have a problem with spending less then a dollar each time you go out to enjoy the outdoors?  I agree that out of staters should pay more, but we really have nothing to complain about with these prices.  We have been spoiled in illinois for too long.

Just look at the prices Wisconsin is paying already: http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/caer/cs/restypes.asp

What kills me is that the people complaining about these prices probably also complained about the closing of state parks and reduction in DNR workforce…then we get a governor that listens to us and makes changes to help us out and all they can do is complain again.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 08:57 PM

No one likes to pay taxes.  Unfortunately, nothing in life is free.  I will gladly pay those fees if it helps keep up the state parks, stocks the lakes and hires the staff to do the job.  This state is lagging in so many things.  The state has an 11.5 billion budget deficit.  If those fees don’t get raised or insitituted, you may see the parks close again.  I applaud the effort by the Gov.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 09:04 PM

What do you want to discuss intelligently Mr. Clifford? The fact that government waste is astronomical? These fees are not going to kill me, but is it to much to ask for that their accountability in our government? Are the rest of you who are so ready to open your wallets happy about the 50% increase in state income and corporate income tax? How about the $10 increase in drivers license, the $20 for a plate sticker, the new fee to register a vehicle, how about the unpaid furlough day for you state employees? Will you be happy when border cities loose employers that will jump ship to IN, IA, WI, KY, and MO for more favorable tax rates? And how about all you smokers ? You happy your cigarettes going to go up a dollar a pack? I don’t smoke but the principle bothers me. Why can government not act like a responsible business or family? Can’t it make a sensible budget instead of acting like a criminal and rob people?

Plus with the exception of Blago not being there NOTHING has changed. The same crooked politicians, Quinn included who had Blago’s back are still there. Heck Quinn even put someone in charge of a lot of public funds who had ties to both Blago and Rezko. Show me where the money is going and I will maybe digest the fee increases and taxes slight better, but until then I assume they are going to keep fueling the political corruption which seems to be the rule in this state.
And the parking fee is extremely punitive to the public land guys. There are other avenues the DNR could save or make money such as allowing landowners to print their tags off the net, or pay a small fee to cover mailing and tags.  I mean I got 3 separate envelopes for deer and turkey tags. A waste. Send me one envelope and charge me and every other landowner 5 or 10 dollars, but don’t whack the little guy in Southern IL an extra $150 a year to take his two sons hunting and fishing in a state park. Make outfitters pay more to get their guaranteed allotment of tags. Charge outfitters whose primary residence is outside of IL double.

Show me accountability and I’ll show you my money.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 09:08 PM

Well said reddog!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 09:18 PM

FYI reddog140, Quinn never had Blago’s back…they hadnt spoken in over a year before he was forced out of office.  Blago had his own group and shunned everyone else out so dont try to put Quinn in the same group.

Im not too happy about the rest of the taxes either, but something has to be done to bring our state out of debt.  The only tax i am happy about is the cigarette tax.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 09:21 PM

I was speaking of the P-R and D-J acts, Red Dog.
People incessantly throw those out there like some kind of guiding savior, without actually having knowledge of their purpose and the state of their being in IL.

You throw out some really definitive ways that the DNR can save money, and I can’t say I disagree with them, but they are a reach comparatively speaking.
One person’s personal wish list.

We could all have fun with that strategy.

Posted by Mike Clifford on 03/18 at 09:33 PM

Regarding the cigarette tax, that one had me ticked off as well….for about 30 seconds.
I already know I need to quit in order to save my life for the benefit of my kids.

Tax away on a superfluous item like cigarettes.

Posted by Mike Clifford on 03/18 at 09:38 PM

I will personally donate a $1000 check to DNR if Marc Miller will replace Shelton with either Ron Wilmore or Gary Alt and give them free reign with our deer herd. I AM NOT JOKING!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 09:41 PM

So…when Quin is no longer Gov. will Miller still have his job?...or will another Blago type be put in. Will the new fees still be used for the DNR? Is there a law set in place to keep the new money where it belongs or will it go back into someones pocket? Thats another issue I have about all of the increases.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 09:41 PM

higgins! why dont you put me on that list smile

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 10:06 PM

I think the fee increase has been long overdue and I’ll support them fully as long as they’re used properly. I think there would be more support for all this if the DNR could operate much like the Missouri Dept of Conservation by not being run by politicians. We need to be charging a lot more for nonresident fees. Missouri nonresident annual fishing is $40 going to $42 and Kentucky is at $51! We’re not close even with the new proposal. They should also get a little creative and offer a family discount to help offset some of these increases.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 10:12 PM

We now have $2000 towards the replacement of Shelton. Thanks Clint!


Anyone else????? Maybe we can finance Sheltons retirement and not cost the state anything to replace him ...... and save our deer herd at the same time!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/18 at 10:33 PM

“100% increase isn’t that bad”. OK then.
Paying a dollar to go hunting. Well, let’s not forget about the gas it takes to get there and the taxes we pay on that. Let’s not forget about the increase in the vehicle registration and other transportation fees. Add it all up and the percentage will be much more than 100%.

Is it that bad for ya know?

Probably not. Perhaps you worked for AIG and have been asked to only give 1/2 of the taxpayers money back?

Well, maybe it will not keep you out of the woods, but it’s likely to keep some of the less fortunate out. The ones that really need it too. The ones that do all they can just to make ends meet. The ones that cut coupons just so they can get enough for their kids to eat until payday. The ones that should be listening when they are informed… “Hey, stop your complaining! it’s not that bad, look what other states charge”.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 04:35 AM

when the fee’s go up ,so will the poaching.some will buy one high priced tag and fill it a dozen times…

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 05:56 AM

No, it’s not that bad. For a long time each year when I have purchased my fishing license, I have expected to see an increase in the fee. That’s because, quite honestly, the cost of the $12 or $13 license is insignificant compared to the cost of all my other fishing gear. Just as we demand government accountability in times like these, I guess we individuals can take some responsible measures of our own. To offset these fee hikes, I guess I should buy fewer $5 lures (which would usually end up snagged or accidentally left in someone else’s boat anyways…LOL). Most of these fee hikes are way overdue. I’m not excited to pay more but I feel stronger that something has to be done. Hopefully we’ll see some positive results soon.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 06:42 AM

I"ll throw in a $1000 too if Shelton is replaced.  Its not only a deer herd he has screwed up, it is soon to be our turkey flock.  As for the increase in fees.  We have had it too good for too long. Im not opposed to paying the fees as long as the money stays in the IDNR funds and not raped by some political hack that thinks he can solve the worlds problems. Trophy hunters need to pay trophy fees and I am not talking about residents here either.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 07:59 AM

I ran the numbers and the $7 resident hunting license adjusted at 3% a year for 25 years comes to $14 in today’s dollars.  Likewise, the $12.50 fishing license at 5% a year for 10 years comes to $19.50, and the resident deer license at $15 comes to $25, at 2% per year for 25 years. If you look at it this way, the fee increase probably is justified.  The thing is, these increases should have been made all along, instead of all in one big increase.  Most sportsmen and sportswomen don’t have a problem with the fee increase as long as they have some assurances that the money will go to the IDNR.  As long as Illinois has politicians that are willing to steal funds from the DNR to go towards “pork barrel projects” and entitlements, then no one should support fee increases.  Let your legislators know that you’ll support fee increases for the DNR, if and only if, the money goes where it is supposed to.  Tell them we’re tired of seeing our taxes and fees being p*ssed away!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 08:01 AM

I am fine with fee increases for us too.
YES, the money has to stay in the DNR’s funds.
Where I don’t want to see ANY increases is in the kids fee’s !!!
The Quinn, Miller & the IDNR all talk about wanting to get more youth involved in our outdoor, hunting, fishing, ect…..Well since they are overhauling all the fee’s it is time for them to prove to us they are serious about wanting to get more youth involved & NOT, price them out of the game from the start !
Kids can out grow their hunting gear & equipment in one or two season. Parents are doing good to keep up with that alone, without getting hammered with high permit fees too.
While they are rewriting all these rule & laws, lets offer the youth permit & licenses to kids under 18, NOT just under 16. We all know no 16 or 17year old kid, is an adult & they should not be charged or taxed as an adult.
We want a real youth outdoors program !!!!
Here we go IDNR, prove that you are serious about the future of IL’s outdoors, OUR YOUTH !!!!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 08:29 AM

I will agree that the license fee increases are not bad and to be expected, and I will not have a problem paying them. I do hunt and fish, so I will just go to buying the combo license. But, the permit’s cost raising that much, I do bow and shotgun hunt, so the permit cost will hit a little hard. I do usually end up getting two sets of bow permits, me and my hunting partner shoot a lot of doe’s for table fare. Between the two of us we killed nine deer this year,(only 1 Buck taken)also gave a couple away to someone with health problems and low income. The point is how many extra doe’s will be taken if permit fee’s go to high to help control the herd. Leave resident permit’s as is and get the additional money from the out of staters and outfitters. I also hunt and fish private property 99.999% of the time, so the extra fee increase realy doesn’t help me, BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM with the money going the state parks & lakes

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 08:35 AM

NO ONE CAN ARGUE AGAINST YOUR POINT BIGD.
18 MILLION WAS SWEPT FROM IDNR SPECIAL FUNDS. WE ONLY GOT BACK 9.25 MILLION WHEN QUINN SIGNED THE BILL RETURNING SOME OF THE DEDICATED FUNDS. THE ONLY FUNDS RETURNED WERE FUNDS WITH MATCHING FEDERAL $‘S THE FEDS WERE THREATENING TO RECLAIM AND 16 MILLION IN FUNDS THE FEDS WERE THREATENING TO WITHHOLD. IF THE FED’S HAD NOT BEEN INVOLVED THAT MONEY WOULD BE GONE - IRREGARDLESS OF THE GOVERNORS NAME OR HIS POLITICS. OUR LEGISLARTURES DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN ALIKE VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE SWEEP SO THEY MUST SHARE THE BLAME.
WHERE DID THE 8.75 MILLION GO?
http://www.deerwildlifealliance.org/Sportsmen-Overturn-Blagojevichs-Attempt-to-Sweep-Conservation-Funding.htm
THIS SITUATION IS JUST ANOTHER POINT MADE FOR A STABILIZED FUNDING SOURCE SIMILAR TO MISSOURI/WYOMING AND SOME OTHER STATES. FUNDS THAT CANNOT BE SWEPT OR TOUCHED BY ANYONE OTHER THAN THE IDNR. THE FUNDING MOVE COUPLED WITH A NON-PARTISAN GOVERNING COMMISSION IS THE KEY TO THE FUTURE OF OUR IDNR.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 08:38 AM

I would hate to be the person selling parking permits at the duck blind drawings!!!!  car will be lined up for miles.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 08:45 AM

I don’t like the additional fees either but they are necessary.  WE HAVE AN $11.5 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT IN ILLINOIS!  If we want to keep parks open and keep the DNR staffed (even to its current bare bones level)funds have to be made available.

I will gladly pay $1000 to replace Sheldon.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 08:48 AM

I will donate $1000 a year to the DNR for each of the next 5 years IF Marc Miller replaces both Paul Shelton and John Buhnerkempe with Ron Wilmore AND Gary Alt and allows them free reign with our deer herd. I AM NOT KIDDING!


I will hand deliver my first check to Marc Miller personally the day this happens.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 08:56 AM

A real turkey biologist, come on Paul Shelton seems to know it all about turkey numbers too. (NOT).... Does this mean we can fire him and hire someone else?  That would save the state some money.  Gotta be spending alot of money on electricity doing all those computer generated reports. Not sure about everyone else but seems we had a great hatch in central Illinois in 2008.  The only problem I see with all this is the non-resident fees didn’t go up enough.  Go hunt (OUR) public land in other states, we are cheap.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 09:34 AM

I stopped at the bar last night after work and drank 10 beers at $2.75 a pop and smoked a $5.00 pack of cigarettes. This morning I got a throb’n headache and the squirts and it’s hard to breathe. Guess if I’d taken my dumb @ss home, I’d have the money to cover the fee increases and feel a whole lot better. It’s all in your perspective and priorities.

EVERYONE whined and griped when they closed the parks. Now a lot of people are whining cuz they are taking some measures to try to keep them open. It’s really simple. If you have a problem with the fee increases then don’t use the parks and give up your outdoor activities. Everybody knows there is a plethora of private access in Illinois for free(yeah right).

Me ? I’m just going to go straight home after work and not drop $50 in a bar for one night, use the money I save to pay the fee increases and continue to enjoy the outdoors.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 09:34 AM

It’s not the money it’s how Big Brother spends it. But what scares me is that more and more people think that goverment can fix it all with more taxes. When the taxes go up then like always goverment hires more and has more studies on some stupid thing and in a short while guess what more taxes. All of us will pay because we love the outdoors. But man whats wrong with a little countability. I just can’t be a sheep.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 09:44 AM

On the whole, I am ok with the increase in fees as long as the funds are used properly.  I would have preferred to see the anterless tag remain the same or slightly more, say $17, and the antler tag increase to $25.  That would allow those folks that don’t want to take a buck to still have affordable opportunities.  I also wonder why the turkey tags were spared an increased.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 11:27 AM

I’m OK with the hikes. It’s not a big deal.

The only thing that bothers me is that there should be some money made off of outfitter and land owners who lease. It’s such a joke that the state will not touch this subject. It’s almost taboo.
It wont change a thing. Out-of-staters will still come and they will still pay big money to hunt this state.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 03/19 at 12:05 PM

Is Gary Alt seriously being considered for a position here? He did phenomenal things with Pennsylvania’s black bear and whitetail deer herds. He had an extremely tough road with the whitetail implementation as he was receiving multiple death threats prior to every town hall meeting he attended. I could only imagine what the deer quality would be like if he came to IL. Count me in he comes.

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