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Legislator proposes entrance fees for parks

January 22, 2011 at 09:58 PM

The State Journal-Register

Visitors to Illinois state parks may have to pay to play.

State Rep. JoAnn Osmond, R-Antioch, introduced a bill last week that would authorize the Illinois Department of Natural Resources to charge an annual vehicle admission fee and a daily access fee to properties the department owns or manages.

Osmond said she introduced the bill — HB0181 — because three sites in her district in northeast Illinois need maintenance. Things are so dire that volunteers had to be found to paint a pair of buildings at Chain O’ Lakes State Park. Even the paint was donated.

“All three of these are state facilities, do not charge admission, and in the last six years the DNR budget has been almost cut in half,” she said. “Each one of these parks is in desperate need of repairs.”

The bill would allow DNR to impose an annual fee of up to $15 a year for vehicles to enter state parks, plus daily fees of up to $10 per vehicle. Other fees would be charged to pedestrians, bicyclists or motorcyclists.

Park users could earn exemptions by providing 500 or more volunteer hours to state parks.

Proceeds from the fees would go to the State Parks Fund for park operation and maintenance. Osmond said she does not know how much revenue would be generated.

DNR spokeswoman Januari Smith said the agency has taken no position on the legislation.

Osmond said she first considered charging only out-of-state visitors to use the parks, because her district bumps up against the Wisconsin border. But the bill’s language doesn’t single out non-residents.

She says she is willing to work with DNR and legislators to refine the bill.

“If we have to tweak it, we will tweak it,” she said. “I just want to get our parks to the place where people will want to visit.”

Shrinking budget

Entrance or vehicle fees have been discussed before, but were left out of the last rule change that boosted Illinois’ hunting and fishing license fees.

In fact, legislation isn’t required to impose park admission fees. They already could be implemented through DNR’s administrative rules process.

DNR’s share of general state tax revenue has been shrinking over the last few years.

In fiscal 2005, general revenue funds totaling $93.3 million made up about half of the agency’s appropriation of $190.2 million. For the current fiscal year, the agency’s share of general revenue funds dropped to $51.5 million in the total budget of $278.7 million. Dedicated state funds and federal funds make up the balance.

As general revenue dollars go elsewhere in state government, DNR has been relying more on funds provided by hunting and fishing licenses and related fees.

The primary repository for licenses is the Wildlife and Fish Fund. In 2005, $34.6 million was appropriated from the state’s kitty of license dollars. By 2011, that figure had risen to $63.8 million.

The increase was fueled partly by increases in license fees, but also by the sale of costly non-resident deer hunting licenses. A non-resident license to take one deer of either sex and one antlerless deer with a bow costs $410. A similar license for firearms costs $325.

By comparison, an Illinois resident pays $12.50 per year for a hunting license, plus more for additionall permits and stamps.

A combination hunting and fishing license costs $26.25.

Osmond said her bill requires admission money be used to help parks where it was generated.

“My whole purpose is to get them some money to bring them back to the way they were before,” she said.

Shouldering the load

According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, 873,000 Illinoisans over age 16 fish, and 316,000 people hunt, and they currently foot most of the bill for wildlife- and fish-restoration programs.

But there is a growing feeling that “non-consumptive users,” those who do not take something home with them — no fish or deer at the end of the day — also should contribute to outdoors funding.

The Fish and Wildlife Service classifies “wildlife watching” as a form of outdoors recreation, and the service says more than 800,000 people in Illinois watch wildlife away from home.

“For one segment of society to pay their share and for another segment to have that use for no charge just isn’t fair to the system,” said Jerry Beverlin, who retired in 2003 as DNR’s director of land management. Currently he is involved with United Bowhunters, serving on a committee that watches legislative issues important to hunters.

Dulany Sriner of Springfield is an avid nature photographer who also enjoys hiking and camping. He thinks charging admission fees is a good idea.

“There’s no free lunch. We can’t afford it anymore,” he said.

His fellow photographers are aware of the contributions of hunters and anglers, Sriner added.

“I know some photographers buy duck stamps because they think they are getting a free ride,” he said.

Beverlin said park entrance fees have been on the table before. However, the problem is how to do it, and how much it will cost. For parks with multiple entrances, it would be expensive to staff an entrance booth at each access point.

“Costs of implementation must be low enough that the expense of collecting the fees does not detract from the amount of money they take in,” Beverlin said.

The easiest approach might be to make an access fee part of the licensing process. When someone buys a hunting or fishing license online, for example, a state park access fee could simply be one of the menu items.

“The cost/benefit ratio is going to be the key,” Beverlin said.

Proposed entrance fees

According to a bill introduced in the Illinois House, the state Department of Natural Resources would be able to charge:

*Up to $15 a year for vehicles using state parks.

*Daily fees of up to $10 per vehicle and $2.50 per pedestrian, bicyclist or motorcyclist.

*People with disabilities and veterans of the armed forces would not be charged a fee. Senior citizens would receive a discount.

*Vehicles with environmental or sportsman series license plates would be exempt from fees. Environmental plates brought in $1.1 million in fiscal 2010. Sporting series plates generated $260,000.

Dedicated funds: Are they safe?

Funds from the sale of licenses, stamps and other fees collected from sportsmen reside in the Wildlife and Fish Fund, one of several special funds administered by the Illinois Department of Natural Resources. Add to that about $16 million a year from Illinois’ share of a federal excise tax levied on most firearms, archery equipment, fishing gear and ammunition.

Not sure how it all works?

You’re not alone.

To qualify to receive federal funds, states have to pass a law promising the money won’t be used for other purposes — states can’t use them to pay other bills.

But balances in special funds often have proved too tempting for lawmakers to leave alone.

As a result, the Illinois General Assembly has tested this law several times, putting federal matching funds at risk.

As recently as 2½ years ago, the state was in hot water when the legislature voted to “sweep” $9 million in sportsmen’s dollars into the general state treasury. Gov. Pat Quinn, who at the time had just replaced the impeached Rod Blagojevich as governor, had to ask the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service for time to restore the money.

Lawmakers voted to put the $9 million back. The alternative would have been to lose $16 million in federal funding.

Following that debacle, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service loaned one of its administrators, John Rogner, to DNR to help mend Illinois’ relationship with its federal partner and to remind everyone — particularly legislators — that license and stamp dollars are off limits.

To volunteer at a state park

Volunteer opportunities are available through the Illinois Department of Natural Resources.

A projects directory is available online. Visit http://www.dnr.state.il.us/volunteer and click the highlighted volunteer projects directory link.

For more information, e-mail Dianne Blasa at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address).

What do other states do?

Two-thirds of U.S. states charge some fees to enter or park at state parks, at least part of the year. Some fees are site specific, and in California, fees are different in peak and off-peak times of year. Here are what some of Illinois’ neighbors do.

*Indiana

$5 per vehicle entry fee, $7 for nonresidents

$2 per pedestrian, bicyclists or on horseback

$2 per person on buses or motorcoaches

$36 annual entrance permit for non-commercial vehicles and all passengers; $48 for nonresidents

Some site-specific charges differ.

*Iowa

No entry fee

“We did have one back in the late ’80s, but it only lasted a couple of years and the legislature repealed it,” says Iowa Department of Natural Resources communications director Kevin Baskins.

*Kentucky

No entry fee

*Michigan

$10 recreation passport

Purchase indicated by a “P” on license plate renewal sticker

*Minnesota

$25 for annual vehicle permit, $18 for each additional vehicle, $12 for the disabled and $20 for motorcycles

*Missouri

No entry fee

*Tennessee

Eliminated $30 annual or $3 daily vehicle entry fee in 2006

*Wisconsin

A vehicle sticker is required for entrance into state parks, forests and trails.

The cost for residents is $25 per year, $35 for nonresidents. Daily fees are $7 and $10, respectively. Seniors get a half-off discount.

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Bout time ,implement it tommorrow ! im real tired of seeing hunters, fisherman, and trappers flippin the bill for bird watchers lookout towers ,nice blacktopped bycycle trails that cost hudreds of thousands its time for theese other [users]to ante up!!

Posted by trolloni on 01/23 at 08:20 PM

Just some ideas for the fee ,tax ,or license whatever you want to call it ,25 bucks for one vehicle per year non transferable! 25 bucks for each bycycle on dept trails ! 10 bucks for bird watchers binos!you guys got any suggestions?i say make it just like we have to pay 25 for deer tags 25 for sportsman license 15 for turkey tags,33 for boat stickers 44 if youre over 16 feet because some legislator thought anything over 16 is a luxurey item,i say lets pass this and dont be shy about what its gonna cost em !Quinn says there has to be sacrifice by everyone, lets see how much gumption and serious he is !!

Posted by trolloni on 01/23 at 08:39 PM

TAX & SPEND.. SPEND & TAX. And some of you still think that OUR money is actually going to help maintain OUR parks!?! Sure, just like the lottery and casino’s are going to fund the school systems of Illinois. Wake up people!

The only reason that this “seems” like a good idea is because what is special to us is in jeopardy. (Just like the scare tactics that public schools use on us.) However, this is really just more fleecing of the taxpayers to cover the intentional mismanagement of our funds. Somebody explain to me how us forking over park entrance fees is going to change the broken political spending problem we have here in Illinois? It won’t and only proves that we are wiling to reach deeper in our pockets.

I see only two options:
1.)Leave Illinois.
2.)Change Illinois.

Option number 1 is looking like the only logical option.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/24 at 07:59 AM

I agree there has to be additional monies to support our state parks.  However, collecting fees would be problematic.  Would we use the “honor system” or would it require staff at entrances?  The former is difficult to enforce (especially with so few Conservation Police).  Additional employment required by the latter would negate much of the revenue increase.
Its a tough call either way.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/24 at 02:51 PM

Another JOKE.  I can understand fees for guided tours of special areas (caves, geysers, if Illinois had them).

So if you want to fish it wil only cost for Fishing License, Boat Ramp Fees, and now Park usage fees.  In a time when families need to take their kids out to get away from playing video games it have been determined to charge to enter the park.  How will this be enforced?  Pay for a special armed guard at the entrance shack?  Have one there 6 shifts per week?  3 shifts per day for 5 week days then have 3 more working double time pay on weekend.

This is about the only place a family who can’t afford to take their kids to a ball game, the expensive show, etc can go. 

I have a proposal.  TAX Golf. Make the tax at the golf course be based on the persons annual income.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/24 at 05:27 PM

Bill, don’t mistake people exercising their right and civic duty to speak out publicly regarding government matters and perceived injustice with “whining”.

Illinois is a wealthy state full of hard working people. The problem isn’t a fault with the people. The problem is that there is no fiscal responsibility and those in charge have little or no ethics or morals. I believe all the money needed to effectively run this state is already being collected. What they are doing with it is the problem. We all pay our fees, licenses, taxes, etc… each and every year. We’ve been doing our part. And still the fees go up and the services go down.

The taxing of Illinois residents is the matter at hand, NOT “who empties the garbage cans”.

Tell me I’m wrong, but be ready to prove it.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/25 at 08:12 AM

How much is this atate in hock for now? They want more money so they can waste more money.Raise taxes charge more fees.Same old song and dance. You can bet if this goes through some ones brother in law in Springfield will be emptying the garbage cans.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/25 at 08:44 AM

?I agree there has to be additional monies to support our state parks?
No we don?t need additional monies to support our state parks, they need to live with the tax money they receive now or even possible cuts in the future.

?Well I think if every other state in the nation can do it then we should be able to do it.?
No every other state in the union doesn?t do it. Read the article again it lists some that don?t and some that did but do not now. So if you want to be like other states I?m for the ones that don?t.

?Things are so dire that volunteers had to be found to paint a pair of buildings at Chain O? Lakes State Park. Even the paint was donated.?
Dire, Really, Dire? Do you think this public servant has any idea of the state of this state?
Bankruptcy, companies leaving, folks losing jobs, foreclosures, education, pensions, infrastructure collapsing and the list goes on and on.
This shows the mind set of our public servants to introduce a bill like this less than two weeks after a 66% tax increase (some corporations may see rates of 9.5%) was passed in the middle of the night and agreed to after closed door meetings by Quinn who two months ago pledge half of this increase would be all he would support.
This is not a whine, I can?t vote for this politician but the career politicians I can I will vote to remove them and replace them with true public servants.
I?m glad that ordinary citizens were able to donate some of their time and monies, (to avoid this dire situation) sometimes doing these types of things bring on a sense of pride and accomplishment.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/25 at 09:03 AM

Captain I have called, wrote e mails, voted. What you hear is the congressmen isn’t in now or he’ll get back to you. Yeah. They put their finger in the wind and if they think it might cost them there job thats when they do something. So when some us might whine a little at lest it makes us let off some steam. Because it sure gets old.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/25 at 10:31 AM

Would this apply to State Fish and Wildlife areas or just the larger state parks?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/25 at 10:33 AM

As with most legislation- the devil lurks in the details. As this bill is currently written, parks such as Chain of lakes (in the Reps District) would make off like a bandit. The legislation calls for each park to get to keep what they bring in. Chain, Starved Rock, Illinois Beach and Kankakee River all see over million visitors every year. they would take in a lot of cash. The downstate parks (and especially the ones that are primarily fish and wildlife oriented do not have the high visitor numbers- and would not get much money. Add in the history of this kind of fee increase and you can be assured that the General Assembly will CUT the same amount (or more) from general revenue taxes to the DNR. End result will be that the fee will be collected, the big north of I-80 parks will break even and the downstate parks will take a big cut. That is not crystal ball vision- it is simply how it has been done all the way back to when the first increase in deer permits went from $5 to $15.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/25 at 11:44 AM

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/25 at 12:50 PM

Pay toilets next?...even for an out house?...better have change or take it back with you.  It will never end.  As usual, the idea may have some merit but the money will go elsewhere.  Chicago is like the Borg….resistance is futile.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/25 at 02:25 PM

Sounds like I will not only support the environment by buying my fishing and hunting license but now will also have to go on the state ground.  How is that fair? I think people who hold fishing and hunting license should get a discount.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/26 at 02:12 PM

Yeah, tell her to withdraw the bill it?s BS. They?ve been trying to get their nose under this tent for quite awhile. The possible exception would be out of state use, I know if I go to another state and use facilities paid for by that states taxpayers a small fee would be reasonable. Perhaps if this were done it would cover the needed maintenance coupled with volunteers.
I can almost guarantee (99.9%) that once this tax gets passed it will give these jackwagons another tax to keep increasing and that is just what we need isn?t it.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/27 at 08:02 AM

You know I agree everyone should pay their share. I have a boat, pay for the sticker, have a truck pay for the sticker, have a fishing liscence which I pay for every year, plus everything I buy for my boat or to fish is taxed, plus the gas, plus my lake sticker. My cigarettes, my soda, my snacks, oh and now I pay a fee to use the ramps, I pay for a place to sleep “campsite”, which I could sleep in a motel cheaper sometimes. I pay!!! Now anyone else who uses these parks should pay their share too but is this just gonna take more from me, who has been supporting the outdoors my whole life. There better be an excemption for those with hunting/fishing liscences. I donate enough already. We live in one of the most financially screwed up states in the country and we already pay enough. Where does all this money go? Tell me what they are doing at these parks to spend all this money! I see no improvements at all. We are talking millions and millions wasted. I doubt this helps anyone. But I do think others should pay their way because I sure do. They litter and destroy wildlife and pay nothing. The outdoorsman in this state foot the bill for all the wildlife and everyone is benefiting from it. Time for others to step it up. This better not turn into another one of them deals where we pay and see nothing. Oh thats right thats politics. Keep stealing our money from us and we keep paying! How about a little oversight. What is being done now? We spent how many millions to find asian carp and we found one. Well that couldnt have been put to better use. The government just wants more to steal! It cost millions to dump poison on a river and have a few guys look for carp. Man I want in on this crap.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/27 at 01:22 PM

Gee I wander what the 2010 funds went to? Surely not any of the parks I have visited. I would not have a problem if I or anyone else could see these improvements…I am a full blown everything hunter so I pay a boat load on license, permits, stamps ect…It is already expensive. If they can show a 2010 expense report by month I would love to see the justification to our hard earned money. I just think enough is a enough with the taxes. How many people went fishing or hunting in IL this year? How many people pay as much as I do? Lots…if you do the math there should be more than enough to pay the bills. But like they say wish in one hand shit in the other see which one fills up first? LMAO

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/27 at 04:35 PM

Bill, who appointed YOU to speak on our behalf. It sure wasn’t me. What part of WE DO NOT WANT and WE WILL NOT SUPPORT this don’t you understand.

If she wants to serve as a REAL public servant and a representative of the “people” then she will put an end to this. Again, the money needed to run and maintain our parks is already there, it’s just being mismanaged. This does NOT mean she (or you) are welcome to look for new additional money from me!!

Can you hear me now?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/28 at 09:45 AM

I agree most of us here are not in support of this. Someone has been sticking their hand in the cookie jar for years stealing the IDNR funds. Now they want us to make up for it by paying even more! The problem is enough is never enough for them. Next year they will raise the prices again, and again! They will keep telling us we need the money to keep going! Yea right! Use the funds where they are needed..

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/28 at 11:07 AM

This whole discussion has me looking at all of the comments- and there are some good ones. The parks pass may not be the best option. With the stamps, licenses and permits that hunters already purchase, they are already carrying their share of the load and then some. I just looked at the past years purchases for me for outdoor recreation. Hunting license, fishing license, state duck stamp, habitat stamp, deer permit, turkey permit, two boat registrations, environmental license plate.  Day park users, birdwatchers, bicyclists etc….. NOPE they didn’t pay jack. I really don’t want to pay more but if it has to be- make it as fair as possible, simple to apply, and protect the funds no matter what.  I would be interested in the comments about this concept instead. Dump the park pass idea and dump the habitat stamp. Outdoor recreation permit- part of which goes to parks- part of it goes to habitat. Go in the park- the vehicle needs to display it. Go fishing- got to have it. Go hunting- same thing. Bike into the park- have one. Horseback ride on state land- got to have it, birdwatch on state land ditto, launch your boat at a state boat ramp- display it in the window, etc. Exempt anyone under 21 from haveing it, so as to not affect recruitment to the outdoor sports. Price it around $7.50 (current habitat stamp is $5.50) so everyone can afford it and thus the law would not need a whole bunch of special interest exemptions. Tie the funding to the federal dollars so the politicians cannot divert, steal, sweep or whatever term they want to use to rip us off. Doing it this way I think would even out the funding more between the hunters who have always paid the lions share, and the picnicers and bird watchers who have not.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/28 at 04:00 PM

@Captain Bill Keim- Thank You!! 
@ GoFish_Tony - “WE DO NOT WANT and WE WILL NOT SUPPORT this”  , Do something about it, voice your opinion, and to the proper source not just PSO Or you could also just come to terms with the fact that prices are just going to go up and up.  Look at it this way, “we the people” are in control of what happens.  They pass this bill then it’s up to you wether you use the park or not.  You won’t pay anything if your not there.  Now if you want to use the park for free, Volunteer at a park.  We pay for the animals we take and for the opportunity to hunt and fish, but we don’t pay anything for using the property.  As far as I’m concerned its better that forking over a few thousand for a 5 day deer hunt at an outfitter.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/28 at 05:48 PM

If I want to carry a firearm in the field I pay for a Foid Card.
If I want to hunt with that firearm I pay for hunting license, if I want to shoot an animal I pay for habitat stamp, and on top of that a special permit (deer, turkey, furbearer, migratory stamp, ....)
If I want to have a boat, I pay for boat registration. If I want to use the boat I pay a ramp use fee.
If I want to fish from that boat I pay for a fishing license.
Ok, so where am I going. A generic fee that will cause hunters and fisherman more fees is not good.
Fee those who arent paying.
Require bikes to have registration sticker fee, then charge a usage fee. We get that with boats and firearms.
Require skaters and joggers to put a sticker on their back like use old time hunters had to do for years. Kinda like a license plate. Require them all to were special clothing. Maybe a glow in the dark reflective vest and a neon hat with a small flashing becon on top.
Give them all limits. Bikers will not have speed limits and be required to have lights just like boats.
Bird watchers need a fee and restrictions also. Whats good for the hunter is good for the watcher. Limit the size of their glasses and lenses for shooting birds. Lets start with 135 mm - 200 mm lenses. Hey, I now have a bow, a shotgun and a muzzleloader if I want to hunt each season. Lets force them to buy special lenses for special seasons. I am limited to 3 shots. Guess what, Limit photographers to 32 mb memory cards and they only get to carry 3 max.
Never thought creating new laws was so fun. This is a hoot. If I was a lawmaker I would get paid some big bucks to dream up ways to charge people for enjoying the outdoors.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/28 at 07:08 PM

These lands were set aside and are owned by the people of Illinois to enjoy and recreate in regardless of ones monetary status. There are folks that visit our S.P.s for family outings i.e. family picnics, a walk in the woods, kids exploring with their parents etc. this can be done within their budget as opposed to other more commercial activities and helps connect kids to the outdoors, and while some think a entry tax is trivial (and for them it may be) couple that with the price of fuel the new income tax increase the new, and as of now ruled unconstitutional, soda pop, gambling what ever the hell you want to call it tax, it is not for those who?s payday Friday can?t get here soon enough (too old to remember them eh?).
There is a difference in user fees and entry fees; the Chain has user fees for boats used on the fox waterway, camping fees, picnic shelter fees, group fees etc. It is said on average during the summer month?s weekends 60.000 visit and up to100.000on holidays.
I have looked in to fishing this area but was told it can be hectic at best, that and needing another sticker on the boat heck I?ll just keep going north.
Why did the other states repeal their short-lived entry fee did their user fees drop?
Bill, I understand you don?t like my suggestion/ opinion as it doesn?t agree with yours or your new friend Joann so on that alone I would have to agree with the others, the way your using the? we? thing is like you have a turd in your back pocket.
Good luck with the fishing.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/29 at 12:08 PM

Bill E. Bob it sure most be addicting, that there lawmakin stuff. LOL

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/29 at 12:36 PM

Go Fish_Tony….I Tip my hat to you ! Well spoken !

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/29 at 03:43 PM

The Colonel is also correct in basically stating that ” We Sportsmen and Sportswomen ” Pay many many many fees just to take part in our chosen sporting activity. Should we just keep dishing out the cash everytime the state grossly mismanages our funds. The funds we have already thrown in the pot that was supposed to take care of specific business. I could go on but I won’t. We are gonna get it up the ying yang again… But then again, whats new ?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/29 at 03:51 PM

If you read the bill as written, “We Sportsmen and Sportswomen’ are going to get to pay again on top of what we are currently paying.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=181&GAID=11&SessionID=84&LegID=54761

Wanna change the bill. Have it written that a valid Fishing or Hunting License holders are exempt from this fee.  The problem is there are many of them in Illinois and that is who they play to get more money from.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/29 at 05:28 PM

I like Bill e bobs position on this subject obviously he knows and has seen the same things ive seen , lots of others using the same resources we hunters and fishermen ,boaters use ,dlfference is we pay the freight and they dont ! the worst part most of em are the [highly educated type] you know we call em educated idiots around this neck a the woods ! i will be contacting my representatives and discussing this bill along with youre recommendations Bill e if thats ok with you ?i will direct them to this ,its time for theese clowns to pay cause this one is gettin tired ,real tired of it!!

Posted by trolloni on 01/29 at 09:32 PM

I totally agree that every user of the parks should have to pay something, Like it said no more “free luch” I’m like most people and have a pretty hard time parting with my money,so,to ME sucking it up and paying a little bit more along with all other users seems like the only surefire way to save myself(hunters,fishermen) money in the long run.  Besides, what if the bill dosen’t pass? Great!! No more extra fees for me!! But the parks still are going to need money, and If I am contributing to footing the bill now, just imagine what prices will be like a few years from now. Maybe the Volunteer hours could be lowered to around 200-300 hours, It seems to me that the only way to accomplish the 500 hours is if you are retired or out of work.  I really hope that all this extra money will finally go to what it is intended for and not stolen for some other funding or project.

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