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Illinois Outdoors

Illinois buck a trophy, not a record

October 30, 2007 at 05:10 PM

Finally the big buck stories and pictures have gone from a trickle to a steady flow.

But the biggest rumor so far this bow season is not true. No, there is no new world record typical buck shot in southern Illinois. At least not yet, and certainly not the deer pictured above. Instead, the deer pictured above is a massive 11-pointer killed by bowhunter Joel Eggers, 22, of Percy, who is shown with the deer. Eggers shot the buck on Oct. 23, 2007 while hunting in Randolph County. For days now the buck has been the subject of intense Internet scrutiny, with several sources saying the deer had scored 206 inches. That would top Mel Johnson’s 204 4/8-inch world record bow kill taken in Peoria County (Click here to read our story from earlier this fall on Johnson’s record).

But when the buck was scored on Thursday (Oct. 25, 2007) by an official measurer, the tale of the tape came up to 198 1/8 inches net. That’s green score, so there will probably be some shrinkage as the rack dries over the allotted 60-day mandatory drying period. When all is said and done, this will probably be a 196-197 inch buck. Yes that’s massive—probably the biggest typical shot with a bow this year in North America. But not a world record. Maybe not even a state record for 10-pointers.

The rack had major deductions for an abnormal 5-inch point that sticks out behind one brow tine. One point was also well short of its matching point on the other side of the rack. As you ponder this, consider the following quote from a veteran Illinois measurer who has scored countless big bucks. “There’s no way a 10-pointer is ever going to break Mel Johnson’s record, period,” said the veteran measurer.

Even so, this is a buck every hunter dreams about. The Eggers buck field-dressed at 250 pounds. So admire these pictures of what—even if it’s not a record—is unquestionably a gorgeous typical buck.

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Curious to see how they score the G3 and G4 on the right side. It looks like they share the same bases./

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/26 at 11:24 AM

when it comes to a 10 pointer never outscoring the johnson buck, i disagree.  just recently there have been severals 10s with net scores over the 204 mark.  the ky state record is a 10 and scores just a an eighth or two under the johnson buck. another ky buck(be it a 246 in. non-typical)with a ten point frame netted over 205 last year.  I know it would be hard but i think its surely possible these days.  thanks

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/28 at 01:57 AM

The James Jordan buck was a 10 point that scored 206 1/8 and was the world record before Milo Hansen. I think that there are probably a small number of these bucks walking around right now in the US and if one of them makes the mistake of getting too close to a wary bowhunter Mel’s record could fall tomorrow, next week, or in an upcoming season.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/28 at 09:21 PM

Hey There Nice Buck but yea my friend Scotty Dolgnor was telling me about this beautifull Buck u Shot and had the chance! It a nice buck there that u have shot! With thos supposed antlers there that the deer was shot in Marion county is a good thing because that is where my whole family hunts! So i see that u have been seeing alot of nice bucks, do u think this is the year that alot of big buck are killed?

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/29 at 11:14 AM

So, which person killed this buck??? THe kid in the first picture, or the second???

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/29 at 02:04 PM

Great question. I wish I knew the answer. Still searching for answers to that.

Posted by Jeff Lampe on 10/29 at 05:26 PM

The young man in the first picture is Joel Eggers who shot the buck.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/29 at 06:42 PM

Makes sense. He’s the guy smiling the widest. Any idea how to reach him via phone? E-mail me at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) if you can. And thanks.

Posted by Jeff Lampe on 10/29 at 07:25 PM

“Massive Illinois buck not a world record”. A headline like this degrades from a great achievement, in my opinion, of the hunter. I could have missed earlier headlines to the story but Joel, I send my congratulations from south Texas. I’m not a bow hunter but appreciate outsmarting a buck of this stature.
And, the statement “apparently killed by bowhunter Joel Eggers” is demeaning to Joel by doubting his claim.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/30 at 06:04 PM

Thanks for your opinion. We have not been able to speak to Eggers personally to confirm that he killed the deer. The idea is not to demean the accomplishment of some hunter—just to make sure we don’t credit the accomplishment to the wrong hunter.

Posted by Jeff Lampe on 10/30 at 07:43 PM

o.k. Jeff. Maybe Illinois is different from Texas. Down here if a man kills a deer and claims he did, we take him for his word. Sure, sometimes maybe that’s abused but I’m not aware of any discretion by anyone and that’s from a lifetime of hunting.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/30 at 09:23 PM

No, you misunderstand. I’m not implying anything is shady about this deer. But to my knowledge, Eggers has not claimed he killed the deer. All we have are Internet reports. There’s a big difference.

We’ve had pictures of a monster non-typical floating around on camera phones up here that have been attributed to several different people. Those people never claimed to kill the deer, but others said they did.

Posted by Jeff Lampe on 10/30 at 09:47 PM

I hope you meet up with Mr. Eggers.  It would be nice to hear his side of the story.  Did he know this buck was around?  Was he hunting this one in particular?  Let us read about the hunt.  Excellent Trophy.  Would love to see this one in Northern WI.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 11/01 at 07:25 PM

Well so much for my step dad’s season i have a feeling that he will be fighting people off of his property left and right.  This deer was shot right across the road where he hunts for shotgun season.  He talked to Eggers and this deer is ligit not a hoax and he deserves all the credit in the world for shooting this bruiser.  Congrats joel.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 11/01 at 09:13 PM

Congratulations on a nice Illinois buck.  Record or not, it is a great trophy.  You are one of very few men to kill a deer of this size in the world with either gun or bow.  Be proud.  I have been saying for years that either Randolph or Perry County Illinois would be where the next world record buck is killed.  You was close.  I would put our bucks up against anything that Pike county, Illinois, Kansas or Canada has to offer.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 11/01 at 09:51 PM

I know Joel.  The buck was a 6yr. old and he has been stalking this buck for about 3 yrs now.  If it was the same buck that I saw 2 yrs ago it was bigger then.  I about hit it with my truck.  Joel also killed a monster 187 last year.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 11/05 at 07:36 AM

I personally know Joel. The deer is his and his alone.  He has sheds from the monster from the last two seasons.  This was no fluke for Joel.  As the last post commented, he killed another big deer last year.  To suggest this picture is fake or he did not kill it is pure nonsense.  You may have your doubts, but please do not take away from what this man has done.  He has accomplished more from bowhunting than possibly anyone in this state.  Two “deer of a lifetime” in back to back years is not an easy task. So for everyone that would like to comment negatively on the subject you need to realize how you would feel if it were you.  Who knows, it happened to a friend of mine, why not you?  Happy Hunting everyone and Good Luck

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 11/05 at 02:12 PM

Super Nice Buck Joel, With out doubt, Your in order of all kinds of congradulations, So Congradulations!!!! Also Congradulations for doing it in back to back years. My hats off to you. In Oklahoma a Buck like that is deserving a high place on memory Lane. I would also Like hear or to read about Hunt. Once again Awesome Buck!!!!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 11/05 at 05:02 PM

nice buck joel,  i have been hunting not far from there this season.  Hope there are more in there but congradulations!!!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 11/07 at 05:11 PM

I’m just amazed that sh*tty honda quad could acutally move with a buck that size on the back lol

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 11/08 at 12:19 PM

You know what….I’m sick and tired of all these people out there that have to find something negative to say about someone else’s accomplishment in harvesting a world class buck!!  GET OVER IT for crying out loud.  Are you that pissed off that you didn’t kill it yourself, that you have to find someway to “belittle” the person that did, in order to give yourself some kind of pathetic satisfaction?!  Hats off to the individual that killed this monster.  And for the skeptics….I hope your losing sleep every night, dreaming of a way to debunk us TRUE hunters accomplishments.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 11/19 at 11:44 AM

I dont care if he isnt a illinois state record, or maybe even a world record.The guy killed one of the biggest 11 pointers that has ever walked this great earth and he did it my home state of illinois.Congrats on a true Legendary Midwest Monster.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 12/31 at 04:50 PM

Joel - Awesome buck. Screw all the naysayers. Who cares about those sniveling, jealous, non-hunting pogues. I guarantee you that not one of them have killed a buck even close to yours.

CONGRATS FROM PENNSYLVANIA!!!!

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/02 at 07:23 AM

i saw some pictures of this deer this weekend when visiting family for chirstmas in randolph county.  my cousin brought in the pics with him holding the deer, and i thought it was a mule deer due to the size.  the kid that shot it also picked up the rack last year that this buck dropped so he knew it was out there.  there is also a little brother of this buck still walking around that’s a 9 pointer but about the same size.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 01/02 at 09:09 AM

I don’t care about points - I care about what they weigh in at. You all know as well as I do that there are 8 or 10 point “basket” bucks out in the woods that won’t go over 130ls. That is a fine buck in anybody’s books - do I sense some jealousy from some of the people posting???
Nice work there Joel - ya’ did good!!

Mike

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